[MR] Atlantia Digest, Vol 101, Issue 24

Mon Jun 6 10:44:43 PDT 2011

Greetings I have a helm that might work I can send you pic. New helm not using it. Contact me at Celticbear67 at AOL.com. In the service to the Crown. 

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>   1. armor questions from a non-fighter... (Alexandria Stratton)
>   2. Re: game? (Glynis Knibb (Glynis Gwynedd))
>   3. Re: game? (Sean D. Sorrentino)
>   4. ISO Strongbacks for Pennsic Field Pavilion set up
>      (Christy Dollymore)
>   5. Highland River Melees - Thanks (Patrick O'Keefe)
>   6. Re: armor questions from a non-fighter... (William Faleston)
>   7. Atlantia 30 year prizes (lady_esperanza at cox.net)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 22:48:50 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Alexandria Stratton <kyrilex at yahoo.com>
>To: Merry Rose <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
>Subject: [MR] armor questions from a non-fighter...
>Message-ID: <661855.24959.qm at web39505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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>I'm shopping for a helm for my husband, Brocc (it will be a surprise!). 
>I am considering something like 
>this: http://www.jamesriverarmoury.com/customnorman.htm
>
>One of the options is a 'leather attachment strip for camail'. I am thinking 
>they mean aventail. 
>Brocc has expressed an interest in the aventail (he's been told there's no need 
>for a gorget if he has the aventail). 
>
>The slatted back looks neat, and looks like it would be cooler to wear. I wonder 
>about padding, though...is it pointless to have the slatted back if it's blocked 
>by padding or covered by the maille? 
>
>I also wonder about a camail (the maille hood)...is there a point to mail worn 
>under a helm? 
>
>Does anyone have any experience or opinions on any of these questions?
>
>Does anyone have any experience with this seller?
>
>Thanks!
> -- Isabelle LaFar
>http://www.HouseBarra.com
>Experience is what you get, when things go awry.
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>Message: 2
>Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 04:39:51 -0400
>From: "Glynis Knibb (Glynis Gwynedd)" <ylandra at gmail.com>
>To: Alexandria Stratton <kyrilex at yahoo.com>
>Cc: Merry Rose <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
>Subject: Re: [MR] game?
>Message-ID: <BANLkTimuqPF051+pSsbvQ1Wmdwxxff6faA at mail.gmail.com>
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>We call that hunkerhausen. It's like tug of war. Each contestant
>stands on an unstable object (we have two very small stools) and holds
>on to the end of a rope with the bulk of the rope on the ground
>between them. Someone counts them off to start, and then the object is
>to knock the other person off their platform or make them drop the
>rope. Kids love it, and it's a lot of fun to watch drunk adults play
>as well.
>
>On Sunday, June 5, 2011, Alexandria Stratton <kyrilex at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Can someone please tell me the name of this game, and the rules/object? Thanks!
>> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=228150893878416&set=a.228148730545299.77789.100000505211323&type=1&theater
>>
>> ?-- Isabelle LaFar
>> http://www.HouseBarra.com
>> Experience is what you get, when things go awry.
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>-- 
>Glynis Knibb
>aka
>~Lady Glynis Gwynedd
>Barony of Highland Foorde
>"Have you hugged a harp today?"
>--
>"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the
>difference."
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>Message: 3
>Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 07:43:53 -0400
>From: "Sean D. Sorrentino" <Sean at SeanSorrentino.com>
>To: "\"Atlantia\"" <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
>Subject: Re: [MR] game?
>Message-ID: <BANLkTikj5d1yqotL0shseJAPP65xfGrrvA at mail.gmail.com>
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>The rules are pretty simple but the game play is pretty complicated.
>
>First, you start off on the platform holding the end of a long rope. At the
>go signal you reel in your rope and attempt to knock your opponent of his
>platform by a combination of strength, guile, and balance. Typical new
>players will attempt to pull you off your platform, but you can defeat them
>by just giving them enough slack that they fall over backwards. It seems
>easy, but it isn't. It takes a lot of skill.
>
>Domenico
>
>-- 
>Sean Sorrentino
>
>Email:
>sean at seansorrentino.com
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>Message: 4
>Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 08:28:34 -0400
>From: "Christy Dollymore" <Dollymore at comcast.net>
>To: <atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org>,	<storvik at yahoogroups.com>
>Cc: House-Blackspear at yahoogroups.com,
>	blackspearfriends at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [MR] ISO Strongbacks for Pennsic Field Pavilion set up
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>Greetings good people!
> 
>Once again, The Kingdom of Atlantia will have a big day shade on the field
>at Pennsic!  I am in need of strongbacks to put it up.  I will not have any
>fighters in my personal camp to help.  They are all arriving at the end of
>the first week. 
> 
>Please let me know if you are willing to help Tuesday Aug. 2 10AM on the
>Battlefield.  
> 
>Many hands make light work!
> 
>Baroness Elizabeth (Bess)
>Chamberlain, Atlantia
> 
>Please cross post   Tks!
>
>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 09:47:31 -0400
>From: "Patrick O'Keefe" <cpokeefe at gmail.com>
>To: "SCA: Merry Rose" <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>, 	Highland Foorde
>	<highland-foorde at atlantia.sca.org>
>Subject: [MR] Highland River Melees - Thanks
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>I hope that everyone had fun at Highland River Melees this past weekend.
>
>I would like to thank the effort put in by Baron Flaithri in running
>the Rapier fighting.  He came and ran it even while not feeling well.
>
>For the archery range, my thanks to Lord Donal for keeping the range
>open so that people could shoot royal rounds.
>
>On the heavy list, the ton of authorizations and enjoyable fighting
>could have been done without the assistance of many marshals,
>including Sir Alfred, Baron Jonathas, Lord Erich, Lord Godai, Lord
>Seamus, and many more.
>
>Last, but certainly not least, I want to thank Lady Kunigunde who ran
>the MoL with various assistance.  Without her, nothing could have
>happened.
>
>my thanks
>Bjorn inn havi
>MiC Highland River Melees
>
>
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>Message: 6
>Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:07:33 -0400
>From: William Faleston <faleston at gmail.com>
>To: Merry Rose <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
>Subject: Re: [MR] armor questions from a non-fighter...
>Message-ID: <BANLkTik+zQo_D7MCW55qi1+W3ExxtjuALg at mail.gmail.com>
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>I don't know the armourer in question so I can't give any advice there, but
>I can answer some general questions. The terms aventail and camail are
>interechangable. Both refer to a curtain of maille that is attached to the
>helm. You may be thinking of a coif, which is a hood of mail that goes under
>the helm.
>
>The tricky thing here is that the helm shown in your link is an early period
>Norman/Norse helm. Typically these did not have an aventail. That didn't
>appear until bascinets came along. Until then, you wore a padded coif, a
>maille coif, and then your helm over it. I'm not an expert on early period
>helms, so I don't know if there were exceptions to this, or how common they
>were.
>Often when I see an early-period SCA helm with a maille attachment, I
>interpret that as a way to portray a simple Norman skullcap with no sides,
>which would not be legal for our game. The mail attachment makes it look
>like they are wearing a coif under a skullcap. It's a pretty convincing
>illusion.
>
>The slatted back is a Good Thing according to everyone I've ever talked to
>who wore one. The "leather attachment for camail" probably hangs at the brow
>line. I would think that while the maille would cover the slatted back, it
>would probably still allow plenty of air to flow through.
>
>The question of whether you really must/should wear a gorget under an
>aventail is a sticky subject among many fighters. Make sure your husband
>discusses this with a marshal or two before making a final decision.
>
>If I've gotten anything wrong here, someone please correct me!
>
>In Service,
>William de Faleston
>
>On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Alexandria Stratton <kyrilex at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> I'm shopping for a helm for my husband, Brocc (it will be a surprise!).
>> I am considering something like
>> this: http://www.jamesriverarmoury.com/customnorman.htm
>>
>> One of the options is a 'leather attachment strip for camail'. I am
>> thinking
>> they mean aventail.
>> Brocc has expressed an interest in the aventail (he's been told there's no
>> need
>> for a gorget if he has the aventail).
>>
>> The slatted back looks neat, and looks like it would be cooler to wear. I
>> wonder
>> about padding, though...is it pointless to have the slatted back if it's
>> blocked
>> by padding or covered by the maille?
>>
>> I also wonder about a camail (the maille hood)...is there a point to mail
>> worn
>> under a helm?
>>
>> Does anyone have any experience or opinions on any of these questions?
>>
>> Does anyone have any experience with this seller?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>  -- Isabelle LaFar
>> http://www.HouseBarra.com
>> Experience is what you get, when things go awry.
>> ========================================================================
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>Message: 7
>Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:10:58 -0400
>From: <lady_esperanza at cox.net>
>To: Atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
>Subject: [MR] Atlantia 30 year prizes
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>Greetings unto the fair Kingdom of Atlantia from the staff of 30 year!  
>
> 
>
>At Atlantia?s 30 year celebration we are trying a new twist on prizes for tournaments and competitions.  It is our wish to showcase and display the many fine artisans, and generous benefactors that our fair Kingdom has.  To do this we would like to invite all gentles who so desire, to donate a prize to be given at the event to one of the many champions that day.
>
> 
>
>Prizes do not have to be made by the person gifting them, purchasing an item to give from a merchant is just as wonderful.  However, since they will be put on display please make sure you include a card or information about the maker so that we can give full credit.  Small items will be accepted as well, but please be aware that we may bundle multiple small items together for a basket prize. 
>
> 
>
>We will be having competitions in many disciplines and age groups.  If you would like to donate something for example that would go to a child, or an archer, or an A&S participant that is not problem.  Please let us know when you deliver your gift so that we place it accordingly.  (Side note: We have all prizes for Archery except, youth.)
>
>
>
>If you are planning to give a prize, our prize coordinator Lady Esperanza Susanna Flecha (Lady_Esperanza at cox.net) needs to know by July 1st.  Prizes must be in her hands before August 19th.  Master Richard Wymarc (Wymarc at gmail.com) is willing to arrange pickup of items if you are unable to meet up with Esperanza.
>
> 
>
>Please send Esperanza the following information:
>
>Name (modern/sca)
>
>Address
>
>Phone
>
>Email
>< p class="MsoNoSpacing">What you will be donating (if you know already, or general idea)
>
>If it is for a specific age/discipline
>
> 
>
>Thank you in advance for helping make 30 Year a Kingdom-wide event!
>
> 
>
>Yours,
>
> 
>
>The 30 year staff
>
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