[MR] People banned from SCA events

[David Chessler]

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Received: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 01:57:56 PM EDT
From: Josh Wells <joshuawells at gmail.com>
To: JR <novothule at gmail.com>Cc: atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [MR] People banned from SCA events

> I apologize.  I read this email chain as diagnosing the gentleman in
> question as having Asbergers when we really have no idea.  I was not
> attempting to belittle your previous experience and spoke a bit
> harshly in my frustration with this whole ordeal.

I have heard that he presented a letter from his doctor giving a diagnosis
(Aspergers and some other problems) and stating that he was OK to participate
in the SCA. He possibly would be OK with someone hanging around to give him
directions, and provided he were not stressed or required to react quickly, as
he would in the lists. 

> 
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 1:52 PM, JR <novothule at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have to disagree with you. This is not pure fantasy. No one here is
trying
> > to diagnose him with anything. I gave my experience with someone that
people
> > also did not want in the SCA. How is it fantasy to share how our
perception
> > of this guy changed after we understood him better? I only said that I
have
> > worked with people who's Doctor has diagnosed them as having Aspergers,
and
> > they were sent to a Psychologist that specializes in Aspergers Syndrome
to
> > confirm it. In my experience working along side these people, each and
> > everyone of them made me feel uncomfortable when I first met them, but
after
> > I learned how to better communicate with them I now call them friends. To
> > sum up what I am saying, I am suggesting to give the guy a second chance
and
> > get to know the him better before you ban him.
> > JR's 3 C's: Courtesy, Chivalry, and Cheesecake
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/30/2011 10:11 AM, Josh Wells wrote:
> >>
> >> I would like to point out that noone here has spent enough time with
> >> him to diagnose him with anything; that is a job for his doctor.  This
> >> entire conversation is pure fantasy.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Grainne ingen Lugdach
> >> <grainneinatlantia at yahoo.com>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> FWIW, I think it might have been helpful for the person in question to
> >>> tell at least one or two people about any challenges he might have.
That's a
> >>> really tough thing to do, though, given the stereotypes and assumptions
that
> >>> society at large has about "those" types of challenges.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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