[MR] Question about fighters & unpassed heraldry

J. C. Smith ispán jsmithcsa at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 1 06:03:07 PDT 2011


Hi there,

There are no laws about this kind of thing, but here is my advice as a long-time 
herald and fighter (the latter, not recently). This is just my opinion -- others 
may, and probably will, disagree.

1.  It's up to the fighter -- he can use his currently registered heraldry or 
none at all.  I tend to discourage folks from using unregistered heraldry*.

2&3.  Best to use a blank tabard/surcoat/shield until something is registered.

*I got some good advice when I was a newbie that I have often repeated:  don't 
sew or paint anything that may change when it's registered.  Do you really want 
to rip out and redo that surcoat because Laurel rules that the scary monster 
needs to be portrayed a certain way, or can't be used at all?  Do you really 
want to repaint that shield for the same reason?  Better to be patient.  


Barcsi Janos
Black Raven Herald
 
JEFFREY C. SMITH 
 
"Be convinced that to be happy means to be free and that to be free means to be 
brave. Therefore do not take lightly the perils of war."  -- Thucydides





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From: Amie Sparrow <troenwolf at hotmail.com>
To: Merry Rose <atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org>
Sent: Wed, June 1, 2011 8:23:47 AM
Subject: [MR] Question about fighters & unpassed heraldry


Hi List,

I have a question about unpassed heraldry. My husband is a new heavy fighter 
(Fighter 1) and I have another friend who is also a new heavy fighter (Fighter 
2). I am working with the assumption that fighters need heraldry.

What do we do in a situation where the heraldry has not been submitted yet? The 
two situations are slightly different.

Fighter 1 - Has passed heraldry, but wants new scarier heraldry. Should he use 
his current heraldry until the new heraldry gets approved? Or can he start using 
the new scarier heraldry because he likes it better?

Fighter 2 - Does not have heraldry at all. What should she do? Can she create a 
tabbard with heraldry that is being submitted while the submission works its way 
through the heraldic review process?

Fighter 3 - For good measure, I'm going to assume that there is at least one new 
person reading the Merry Rose and wants to fight, but doesn't have the foggiest 
idea of what heraldry he or she wants. What should that person do if that person 
wants to fight at an event?

You can assume that none of these fighters is going to be in a crown tournament 
before heraldry is passed, so we can remove that possiblity from the discussion.

I have skimmed the SCA Marshall's Handbook and the Atlantian Book of Policy. I 
did not find anything that implied a fighter had to have heraldry at all (much 
to my surprise).

What should these fighters do? 

Thanks,

Amie 
                        
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