[MR] SCA Census..

[Logan]

if someone does not violate kingdom law the kingdom seneschal has not
authority, or right, to get involved in matters between parties.  if someone
is fabricating information to attack someone in the real world it would be a
matter for the actual authorities.  regardless, real world issues do not
fall under the purview of the sca or its officers.  blame cannot be put on
the kingdom seneschal, or any other officer for that matter, for personality
conflicts or petty behavior on the part of others.  one persons villain is
very often another persons hero.  

yes, there are people who are, or simply perceived as, bullies.  most of the
time it is because their opinion doesnt jive with the "victims" or the
"victims" supporters.  rarely is it a simple case of someone just being mean
spirited and intent on driving someone away.  again, this kind of personal
conflict isnt something an officer can, or should, be involved in.  peer
pressure, support for those mistreated, and above all communication (honest,
forthright, meaningful) are the best tools for dealing with conflict.  the
latter being something most people fail at terribly and the cause of a lot
of hurt feelings.  folks need to learn to speak to, not about, each other.
its so easy to agree to disagree but people have to be willing to understand
that they simply disagree for that to happen.  that understanding cannot
happen without discussions.

works most of the time.  not always....... but most of the time.

regards
logan

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-----Original Message-----
From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Anne
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 6:56 PM
To: Merry Rose
Subject: Re: [MR] SCA Census..

oops...sent privately when I wanted to post to the Merry Rose...

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Anne <orionsdaughter at gmail.com> wrote:

> The Society may not be able to control a members finances but it sure 
> as hel can control the behavior of its members towards each other.
> Members who take thier stupid jealousy into the real world and in the 
> real world cost people jobs and freedom over made up and imagined 
> slights and real jealousy..  The problem lays in that when one takes 
> it to the Kingdom Seneschal you hear, "well its a personal problem" 
> and they do not want to get involved.. Nor do people who have a long 
> and well known history of chasing people out of a barony or out of the 
> SCA entirely have to face the repurcussions of thier behavior...they 
> are just allowed to continue one and nothing is done to put a stop to
them.
> I thought, when I joined the Society that while we were recreating the 
> Middle Ages we were doing it better than they did...
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Patty <patoodle at aol.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>  I too am wondering about this rumor that the BoD was hesitant to 
>> release this. I *do* think it took a while to analyze the data, 
>> especially since members of the SCA Census team were doing it on a 
>> volunteer basis, and I'm sure that most if not all of them have their own
mundane jobs to do for pay.
>>
>>
>> I know we're all going to focus on the "bad experiences with people 
>> in the SCA" finding, but I noticed that the top two answers to "What 
>> led to the
>> decrease(s) in your activity level in the SCA?" (page 27 of the 
>> 61-page
>> slideshow) are two factors that our Society ultimately CANNOT 
>> control: lack of time and lack of money.
>>
>> If young adults have to stay in postsecondary school longer (see the 
>> recent New York Times article, "The Master's Is the New Bachelor's") 
>> and then if they have way too many financial obligations afterward 
>> (if they even have a job), how are they supposed to throw themselves 
>> into our game? If they work long hours, spend a total of two and a 
>> half hours out of their day on the road just commuting, where does that
leave time for SCA activities?
>>
>> Just some things to think about before we all start accusing each 
>> other of being the source of "bad experiences with people in the SCA."
>>
>> Also, I was intrigued to find out that Atlantia is the fourth largest 
>> Kingdom in the Known World. Go us! :-)
>>
>> In service,
>> Patricia of Trakai
>> (who joined the SCA 7.5 years ago)
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