[MR] Fwd: care with accusations Re: Pennsic Water Challenge
Logan
Logan at ebonwoulfe.com
Sat Jul 16 16:52:32 PDT 2011
first it wouldnt be slander. slander is spoken. libel is written.
regardless, stating my opinion whether or not the well water at coopers lake
should be defined as drinkable, or safe, has nothing at all to do with
libel. they dont charge for the water, nobody is suddenly going to decide
not to go to coopers lake because of what i posted, no reasonable person
will think less of the coopers or coopers lake, no harm will come to them
from my opinion (assuming that my opinion is wrong.... maybe most folks
think rusty, smelly, water is great) they wont lose any money, their
reputation isnt being diminished, etc etc etc.
some folks can drink well water without issue. heck ive been to haiti,
where the water is infested with giardia, and they drink it all the time
without issue. my caution has to do with folks that are not used to well
water, bad city water, or any other water with a turbidity level as high as
the water at coopers lake which stains everything. can you bleach it to
make it safe? sure. is it unsafe (as in bacteria that would cause health
issues in healthy adults?) probably not. i tested it a few years ago and
its contaminant level was above 400ppm (my meter only went to 400ppm). for
a reference charlotte city water (which is nasty) was at 34ppm and aquafina
(and lebleu) both came in at 1ppm. harris teeter (grocery chain) was a
admirable mention with their "purified water" in gallon jugs at 2ppm and
only .89 per gallon. its probably cheaper for most folks to just buy
purified water in town for the week than to buy bleach. of course if youre
used to well water none of this matters but if you live in a city and drink
municipal water you should stay clear of the water at pennsic. or
not.......
logan
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-----Original Message-----
From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Anne
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 5:52 PM
To: Merry Rose
Subject: [MR] Fwd: care with accusations Re: Pennsic Water Challenge
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Anne <orionsdaughter at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MR] care with accusations Re: Pennsic Water Challenge
To: Becky McEllistrem <bmcellis at yahoo.com>
So........ if you have a question about the quality of pennsic water.. carry
a gallon of bleach with you and an eyedropper... a few drops per gallon and
the water is potable. It might taste a bit funky but it is drinkable.. and
no not due to bleach if you don't overdo it. If you do let it sit over
night and the taste will disappear, bleach taste that is.
I sail boats.. I sail in some truly funky places.. I drink the local water
that goes into the boat tanks.. before we fill I put in bleach. cheap and
solves pretty much any problem. I have other methods of water purification
but this one is the cheapest. One can also buy water purification tablets
online.
I drank the water at Coopers for yrs.. am still alive to tell the tale. I
seem to remember it had a bit of a mineral taste.. shrug... cannot be any
worse than the "iron water" I grew up drinking in SC.
YMMV
lady aine
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Becky McEllistrem
<bmcellis at yahoo.com>wrote:
> I know I have had Pennsic water before and while not what I've wanted,
> when you're hot in the middle of the field I know it never made me truly
sick.
>
> Are we sure that Pennsic water is what made people unhealthy and have
> documented it? I ask because I worry that if we relate stories like
> that and they're not well documented with medical testing we could
> become the group that brings SCA into a slander suit with Coopers Lake
Campground.
> From what I understand slander suits are kind of expensive.
>
> Rebecca
>
> --- On Fri, 7/15/11, Logan <Logan at ebonwoulfe.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Logan <Logan at ebonwoulfe.com>
> > Subject: Re: [MR] Pennsic Water Challenge
> > To: "'Atlantia maillist'" <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> > Date: Friday, July 15, 2011, 9:46 PM "safe and drinkable"? i would
> > hardly suggest that. the purity level of pennsic well water is
> > horribly turbid and anyone who consumes it runs the risk of peeing
> > from their butt for some time. in our camp we have to change each
> > of our filters several times a week and upon returning from pennsic
> > you can literally scrape the funk off your skin and nails. bad
> > news......
> >
> > also, transporting water to pennsic isnt necessary.
> > there are some tiny
> > small towns nearby that have places to buy the water there. ;^)
> >
> > regards
> > logan
> >
> > "I never did give them hell. I just told the truth, and they thought
> > it was hell."
> > Harry S Truman
> > "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that
> > his vengeance need not be feared"
> > Niccolo Machiavelli
> > For your SCA combat needs please visit:
> > www.ebonwoulfe.com/armory.htm
> >
> > www.ebonwoulfe.com
> >
> > For worldwide listings of fighter practices please visit:
> > www.fighterpractice.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> > [mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org]
> > On Behalf Of David
> > Chessler
> > Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 7:18 PM
> > To: Stefan li Rous; Atlantia maillist
> > Subject: Re: [MR] Pennsic Water Challenge
> >
> > Period would be to drink beer or small beer. Wine in the south.
> > Small beer for breakfast and for children.
> >
> > What does Duke Cariadoc do in the Enchanted Ground?
> > --
> >
> > Davitt il Bigollo da Pisa
> > Procurator parumper aurifex in Portus Liburni Officina pro Moghul
> > terra Curalium quod Smaragdi ex Indicum quod Serenus
> >
> >
> > ------ Original Message ------
> > Received: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 04:42:46 PM EDT
> > From: Stefan li Rous <StefanliRous at austin.rr.com>
> > To: Atlantia maillist <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> > Subject: Re: [MR] Pennsic Water Challenge
> >
> > > Gracia Esperanca, Baronesa, Black Diamond, asked:
> > > <<< Last year a challenge was set forth...
> > water was needed for our
> > > troops at Pennsic. Atlantia in all her
> > generosity responded with over
> > > 300 gallons! The amount was staggering and yet
> > we still ran out of
> > > water before the end war. With every passing day, War
> > draws closer and
> > > once again the challenge
> > sounds. There is no minimum effort....
> > no
> > > one should give what they can not, but any effort is
> > vastly welcomed
> > > and appreciated and every gallon of water is a great
> > help. Can we beat
> > > last year's numbers? >>>
> > >
> > > Perhaps this is clear to everyone, but I'm not sure.
> > >
> > > Are you asking for gallon containers of drinking water
> > to be imported
> > > to Pennsic from elsewhere or are you asking for empty
> > containers which
> > > can be filled up at Pennsic?
> > >
> > > For those unfamiliar with Pennsic water, it is safe
> > and drinkable, but
> > > it has a high iron content which many people don't
> > like, and if you
> > > leave a bottle of it out in the sun, it begins to turn
> > a disconcerting
> > > brown from the rust.
> > >
> > > Pennsic-water-msg (6K) 9/ 1/07 Dealing with the
> > Pennsic drinking water.
> > > http://www.florilegium.org/files/PENNSIC/Pennsic-water-msg.html
> > >
> > > So if you have room to throw in several gallon
> > containers, I'm sure it
> > > would help. And you can fill that space with goodies
> > from shopping on
> > > the way home. :-)
> > >
> > > Stefan
> > >
> > > --------
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> > > Mark S. Harris
> > Austin, Texas
> >
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> > >
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