[MR] Atlantia Digest, Vol 96, Issue 46
Ron Osceola
ronosceola at gmail.com
Sun Jan 30 08:46:47 PST 2011
So in the middle ages who needed any kind of drugs, they used rye
contaminated with ergot and MANY people did things that mere POT could not
move them to do. Heck, witches can fly, with the right sandwich.
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> 3. Re: wow.... just wow (Roy B. Scherer)
> 4. Fwd: Royal Court Report for Ponte Alto Investiture -
> CORRECTION (Jim/Mathias)
> 5. Re: wow.... just wow (isolda1066 at gmail.com)
> 6. Re: wow.... just wow (Bambi TBNL)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 20:24:20 -0800 (PST)
> From: Chris Harrop <chrshrrp at yahoo.com>
> To: "Roy B. Scherer" <rscherer at lairhaven.com>
> Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: Re: [MR] wow.... just wow
> Message-ID: <446909.44202.qm at web55908.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
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> I wonder what they did about recreational substances in the middle ages.?
> Does
> anyone know?
> ?
> Chris Harrop
> Referral agent and business broker for
> Westgate Realty. Office 703-208-9999. Cell 703-894-7129 and 571-722-7587.?
> Serving the Washington D.C. metro area.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Roy B. Scherer <rscherer at lairhaven.com>
> To: The Merry Rose <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> Sent: Sat, January 29, 2011 2:11:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [MR] wow.... just wow
>
> At 12:01 PM 1/28/2011, you wrote:
> > I know it's a serious problem but you've got to give them points for
> creativity
> >-- plus I got a giggle from the headline!
>
> Milady -
> ? ? ? ? With all due respect, neither the importation of marijuana into the
> United States, nor its use by mundane Americans, is a "serious problem".? I
> would call it "personal choice".
> ? ? ? ? Instead, I would term the Government's futile, wasteful, expensive,
> racist, dishonest "War on some Drugs" a serious problem.? (Then again, I
> might
> possibly be a bit biased.)
> ? ? ? ? If I misunderstood your meaning, then please forgive my error.
> -- Britton
>
> end
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - - Roy B. Scherer
> [529 High Street, Petersburg, VA 23803-3859;
> ? Roy:(804)382-5411; Sally (804) 767-0420]
> ============================================================
> "If the law says that, then the law is a ass -- a idiot!"
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 01:15:48 -0500
> From: "David Chessler" <chessler at usa.net>
> To: Chris Harrop <chrshrrp at yahoo.com>, "Roy B. Scherer"
> <rscherer at lairhaven.com>
> Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: Re: [MR] wow.... just wow
> Message-ID: <030PadgoW0720S02.1296368148 at web02.cms.usa.net>
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> The only common one was alcohol in all its guises. Beer and wine were
> preferred to water, which was generally unsafe, so most people were
> probably
> half-bagged most of the time by modern standards. Hashish and Opium were
> known
> and were used as medicines. Hashish was "abused" by the Assassin sect in
> Arabia (or Persia), but was not apparently used in Europe.
>
> Distilled spirits came in the late middle ages. Most of the accounts I have
> read do not mention them. They were probably rare and expensive.
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> Received: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:24:36 PM EST
> From: Chris Harrop <chrshrrp at yahoo.com>
> To: "Roy B. Scherer" <rscherer at lairhaven.com>Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: Re: [MR] wow.... just wow
>
> > I wonder what they did about recreational substances in the middle ages.?
> Does
> > anyone know?
> > ?
> > Chris Harrop
> > Referral agent and business broker for
> > Westgate Realty. Office 703-208-9999. Cell 703-894-7129 and
> 571-722-7587.?
>
> > Serving the Washington D.C. metro area.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Roy B. Scherer <rscherer at lairhaven.com>
> > To: The Merry Rose <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> > Sent: Sat, January 29, 2011 2:11:40 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MR] wow.... just wow
> >
> > At 12:01 PM 1/28/2011, you wrote:
> > > I know it's a serious problem but you've got to give them points for
> creativity
> > >-- plus I got a giggle from the headline!
> >
> > Milady -
> > ? ? ? ? With all due respect, neither the importation of marijuana into
> the
> > United States, nor its use by mundane Americans, is a "serious problem".?
> I
>
> > would call it "personal choice".
> > ? ? ? ? Instead, I would term the Government's futile, wasteful,
> expensive,
> > racist, dishonest "War on some Drugs" a serious problem.? (Then again, I
> might
> > possibly be a bit biased.)
> > ? ? ? ? If I misunderstood your meaning, then please forgive my error.
> > -- Britton
> >
> > end
> >
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - - Roy B. Scherer
> > [529 High Street, Petersburg, VA 23803-3859;
> > ? Roy:(804)382-5411; Sally (804) 767-0420]
> > ============================================================
> > "If the law says that, then the law is a ass -- a idiot!"
> > -- Beadle Bumble, quoted by Charles Dickens in OLIVER TWIST.
> > ============================================================
> > ========================================================================
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 01:45:28 -0500
> From: "Roy B. Scherer" <rscherer at lairhaven.com>
> To: "The Merry Rose" <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> Subject: Re: [MR] wow.... just wow
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> At 11:24 PM 1/29/2011, you wrote:
> >I wonder what they did about recreational
> >substances in the middle ages. Does anyone know?
>
> We know that the Greeks burned
> marijuana and inhaled the smoke -- no evidence of
> pipes or joints. Various African societies likewise.
> Our own particular era, Idunno. I
> think of "witches" using herbs. Certainly
> cooking with either grass or hashish (the resin
> of the plant, which you probably already knew)
> would work well, providing it was a greasy
> recipe. Tea would work, but most
> inefficiently. Spaghetti sauce does really
> well. THC is slightly water-solouble, but highly fat-solouble.
> -- YIS,
> --Britton
>
> end
>
> - - Roy B. Scherer
> [529 High Street, Petersburg, VA 23803-3859;
> Roy:(804)382-5411; Sally (804) 767-0420]
> ============================================================
> "[T]here is nothing more difficult to
> take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more
> uncertain in its success, than to take the lead
> in the introduction of a new order of things.
> Because the innovator has for enemies all those
> who have done well under the old conditions, and
> lukewarm defenders in those who may do well under
> the new. This coolness arises partly from fear of
> the opponents, who have the laws on their side,
> and partly from the incredulity of men, who do
> not readily believe in new things until they have
> had a long experience of them."
> Nicol? Machiavelli, THE PRINCE, c. 1505
> ============================================================
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 08:18:27 -0500
> From: "Jim/Mathias" <jsfrodo at gmail.com>
> To: royalcourtreport at atlantia.sca.org, Atlantia List
> <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>, AtlantianHeralds at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MR] Fwd: Royal Court Report for Ponte Alto Investiture -
> CORRECTION
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>
> As pointed out by my faithful second, Lady Rhiannon, while His Majesty
> intended to induct Lady Tovah and summoned her forth for said purpose, alas
> she had already travelled onwards, and was unavailable. My apologies to
> His
> Majesty and Lady Tovah for "letting the cat out of the bag" in this
> fashion. If by chance Lady Tovah has not seen this report, I pray that all
> will conspire to keep the secret. I fear I must plead the aftereffects of
> a
> new grandson. Apparently my brains have become like unto tapioca, from an
> overdose of cuteness and adorability in my household.
>
> With regrets,
> Mathias
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jim/Mathias <jsfrodo at gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 12:25 PM
> Subject: Royal Court Report for Ponte Alto Investiture
>
> His Majesty did induct Lady Tovah Scofeld into the Order of the Opal
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 08:25:11 -0500
> From: "isolda1066 at gmail.com"<isolda1066 at gmail.com>
> To: "David Chessler"<chessler at usa.net>, atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: Re: [MR] wow.... just wow
> Message-ID: <1327d95c-c428-44ad-95c9-5f80b3113673 at blur>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Greetings
>
> If we all started drinking only beer and mead right now, sure we'd be
> pretty well toasted, but in period people grew up drinking that their whole
> lives...would their bodies be used to it and therefore show less outward
> signs of drunkeness? For that matter how did they not all have liver
> problems.
>
> I'm also aware that 2nd and 3rd brews were taken off the same grain bed
> (called small beer b/c it was less potent) and that this is what women and
> children typically drank.
>
> Regards
> Isolda de Crosthwaite
>
> Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: David Chessler <chessler at usa.net>
> To: Chris Harrop <chrshrrp at yahoo.com>, "Roy B. Scherer" <
> rscherer at lairhaven.com>
> Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Sent: Sun, Jan 30, 2011 06:15:58 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [MR] wow.... just wow
>
> The only common one was alcohol in all its guises. Beer and wine were
> preferred to water, which was generally unsafe, so most people were
> probably
> half-bagged most of the time by modern standards. Hashish and Opium were
> known
> and were used as medicines. Hashish was "abused" by the Assassin sect in
> Arabia (or Persia), but was not apparently used in Europe.
>
> Distilled spirits came in the late middle ages. Most of the accounts I have
> read do not mention them. They were probably rare and expensive.
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> Received: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:24:36 PM EST
> From: Chris Harrop <chrshrrp at yahoo.com>
> To: "Roy B. Scherer" <rscherer at lairhaven.com>Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: Re: [MR] wow.... just wow
>
> > I wonder what they did about recreational substances in the middle ages.?
> Does
> > anyone know?
> > ?
> > Chris Harrop
> > Referral agent and business broker for
> > Westgate Realty. Office 703-208-9999. Cell 703-894-7129 and
> 571-722-7587.?
>
> > Serving the Washington D.C. metro area.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Roy B. Scherer <rscherer at lairhaven.com>
> > To: The Merry Rose <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> > Sent: Sat, January 29, 2011 2:11:40 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MR] wow.... just wow
> >
> > At 12:01 PM 1/28/2011, you wrote:
> > > I know it's a serious problem but you've got to give them points for
> creativity
> > >-- plus I got a giggle from the headline!
> >
> > Milady -
> > ? ? ? ? With all due respect, neither the importation of marijuana into
> the
> > United States, nor its use by mundane Americans, is a "serious problem".?
> I
>
> > would call it "personal choice".
> > ? ? ? ? Instead, I would term the Government's futile, wasteful,
> expensive,
> > racist, dishonest "War on some Drugs" a serious problem.? (Then again, I
> might
> > possibly be a bit biased.)
> > ? ? ? ? If I misunderstood your meaning, then please forgive my error.
> > -- Britton
> >
> > end
> >
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - - Roy B. Scherer
> > [529 High Street, Petersburg, VA 23803-3859;
> > ? Roy:(804)382-5411; Sally (804) 767-0420]
> > ============================================================
> > "If the law says that, then the law is a ass -- a idiot!"
> > -- Beadle Bumble, quoted by Charles Dickens in OLIVER TWIST.
> > ============================================================
> > ========================================================================
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? The Merry Rose Tavern at Cheapside
> > ? List Info: http://merryrose.atlantia.sca.org/
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 08:07:08 CST
> From: "Bambi TBNL" <hippy_dippy_dancer at yahoo.com>
> To: chessler at usa.net, chrshrrp at yahoo.com, rscherer at lairhaven.com
> Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: Re: [MR] wow.... just wow
> Message-ID: <250168.21049.qm at smtp107-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
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>
> Rom the looks of it , a lot of disilled drinks were mnufactured by
> monesteries and convents in europe for medicinal purposes. Yes whole
> industire grew put of that but....im just sayin...
> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Sunday, January 30, 2011 1:15:57 am
> To: "Chris Harrop" <chrshrrp at yahoo.com>,"Roy B. Scherer" <
> rscherer at lairhaven.com>
> Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> From: "David Chessler" <chessler at usa.net>
> Subject: Re: [MR] wow.... just wow
>
> The only common one was alcohol in all its guises. Beer and wine were
> preferred to water, which was generally unsafe, so most people were
> probably
> half-bagged most of the time by modern standards. Hashish and Opium were
> known
> and were used as medicines. Hashish was "abused" by the Assassin sect in
> Arabia (or Persia), but was not apparently used in Europe.
>
> Distilled spirits came in the late middle ages. Most of the accounts I have
> read do not mention them. They were probably rare and expensive.
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> Received: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:24:36 PM EST
> From: Chris Harrop <chrshrrp at yahoo.com>
> To: "Roy B. Scherer" <rscherer at lairhaven.com>Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: Re: [MR] wow.... just wow
>
> > I wonder what they did about recreational substances in the middle ages.?
> Does
> > anyone know?
> > ?
> > Chris Harrop
> > Referral agent and business broker for
> > Westgate Realty. Office 703-208-9999. Cell 703-894-7129 and
> 571-722-7587.?
>
> > Serving the Washington D.C. metro ar
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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