[MR] BBC: Kate Middleton's Heraldic Arms

Catherine Windsor jcwindsor59 at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 20 12:25:53 PDT 2011


Sain,

In history, as in the SCA, the lozenge was reserved strictly for women. It has 
never been authorized for use by men.

YIS,
Julia

 Baroness Julia Windsor
Argent, a portcullis and chief embattled azure


"So do all who live to see such times but that is not for them to decide. All we 
have to decide is what to do with the time given to us."




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From: Nicole E. Miller <schnauzer2 at cox.net>
To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 1:18:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MR] BBC: Kate Middleton's Heraldic Arms

Lord Mungo,

The use of a lozenge is fully permitted in SCA heraldry, there is even a 
submission form with that shape.  Once a device passes registration the "general 
shape" the bearer chooses to display is quite open to artistic license.  
Traditionally only women used the lozenge though I do not believe we have any 
specific rules to prevent a gentleman from doing so, and most women register 
theirs on a shield as well.  The official submission forms use the basic shape 
for uniformity of records, but if  you want some alternative shape on you 
personal items, more power to you.  It might cause a little twitching from 
heralds who walk by, but we will survive.  LOL

In service,
Sain
---- "Garth G. Groff" <ggg9y at virginia.edu> wrote: 

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Noble friends,

Kate Middleton, via the Middleton family, now has officially approved 
heraldic arms: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13127145 . Not being a 
herald, I can't comment upon the design, except to say is both striking 
and attractive. The shape of the shield is very interesting, and I 
wonder if this will allowed as a variant in our heraldry.

Kind regards,


Lord Mungo Napier, That Crazy Scot


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