[MR] Fwd: A question of Protocol regarding toasts

[Glynis Gwynedd]

As an addendum, Her Grace, Duchess Rachel pointed out the following to me
(please see below).

~Lady Glynis Gwynedd
Barony of Highland Foorde
"Have you hugged a harp today?"
--
"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the
difference."


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <duchessrachel at sc.rr.com>
Date: Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [MR] A question of Protocol regarding toasts
To: Glynis Gwynedd <ylandra at gmail.com>


A couple of corrections:
2. Technically, the local landed Baron(ess) outranks the Heirs.  The power
the Baron(ess) holds comes from they Monarchs, not the Heirs.  HOWEVER,
anyone with any sense treats the Heirs as higher ranking than the local
landed Baron(ess).  The proof?  Look at a Baronial court that the Heirs are
at.  The Baron(ess) opens their court then invites the Heirs in.

5. High table is co-ordinated by the highest ranking female noble on site.
 If it's the Queen, she does it.  If it's the Baroness, she does it.  Now,
the Baroness can offer to the Queen to co-ordinate for her, but it's still
the Queen's whim.  No Queen or Baroness or last resort their male
counterparts?  Probably no high table either.

Duchess Rachel
---- Glynis Gwynedd <ylandra at gmail.com> wrote:
> Some time ago, there was a discussion on the Merry Rose about toasting at
> events. After sorting through some 50 emails on the subject, there seem to
> be a few things that are believed.
>
> 1. The highest ranking Peer that isn't the King or Queen toasts Their
> Majesties, next highest ranking Peer toasts Their Highnesses, next toasts
> the hosting Baron and Baroness.
>
> 2. Outranking everyone when in Their own lands except Their
> Majesties/Highnesses, the hosting territorial Baron/Baroness toasts Their
> Majesties, the highest ranking Peer that isn't the King, Queen, Prince or
> Princess toasts Their Highnesses, the next highest ranking Peer toasts the
> hosting Baron and Baroness.
>
> 3. Guests at High Table are assigned by the King and Queen.
>
> 4. Guests at High Table are assigned by the hosting Baron and Baroness.
>
> 5. High Table is coordinated by the hosting Baroness, but the King and
Queen
> say who sits there.
>
> 6. The hosting Baron and Baroness are guests of honor.
>
> 7. The hosting Baron and Baroness find out who is the highest ranking Peer
> and ask them if they would like to give the toast, and then arrange the
rest
> on down the line from there.
>
> 8. The newest Peer should have the opportunity to do the first toast, or
> toast those who aren't able to be with us that night (such as in the
> military, or passed away, etc.)
>
> 9. Toasting as we do it in the Society is a post-period, Victorian custom
> anyway.
>
>
> As you can see, there are a lot of things that are believed about
toasting,
> most of which are exactly the opposite of each other. Atlantia has no
> sumptuary laws, which means that there isn't really a law or policy that
is
> stated flat out to guide us on this.
>
> That said, given that the event season is now ramped up into full swing,
> what would be the best way for the local landed Baronage (and not just my
> own, I'll add) to not step on toes as regards Feast, High Table, and
Toasts?
>
> Before you answer - PLEASE trim your posts and don't hijack the
> thread/subject line to discuss anything other than toasts and High Table.
> Anyone who doesn't trim their post will receive the entire digest of the
> previous set of messages on this subject from me. I want to use this
> information to advise several sets of local landed Baronage who have
> inquired on this matter. Thank you so much!
>
>
> ~Lady Glynis Gwynedd
> Barony of Highland Foorde
> "Have you hugged a harp today?"
> --
> "Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the
> difference."
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