[MR] funny how people get about what they find ok

[Becky McEllistrem]

I"ve said this to many people - I find it incredibly rude to decide for others what they may and may not discuss especailly on a public discussion list.

I understand the scout discussion even though I have no involvement in it becuse we do so many scout demos and use their camps  often at a much cheaper rate than other groups because of when we use it etc.


Opposite of you I find it extremely offensive for anyone to appoint themselves in charge of what's allowed onlist and find it extremely offensive that anyone would decide it their right to tell everyone else to not talk announcing that your feelings are more important than theirs.

I also find it a silly discussion since most of these debates fizzle out on their own and no one required anyone to be onlist although if you're involved you should be here.

I myself have deleted many a discussion and never felt once the need to bully people about what they're allowed to discuss.  Sometimes these disucssions break up group sometimes they don't.  Assuming they always do is a very negative approach to life.  Bullying people out of discussion is also a negative approach to life.

The delete key works just fine.  It's not just about one person's inbox.  It's about what the group needs to do.  I've learned many interesting approaches to ideas from these discussions that I never though about before.  

If I don't have time for it I delete it.  I will not bully my neighbors about my vision of what is allowed.


--- On Thu, 6/10/10, Michelle <mobishob at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Michelle <mobishob at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [MR] funny how people get about what they find ok
> To: atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> Date: Thursday, June 10, 2010, 1:39 PM
>  
> "some folks, apparently, wish to ignore that here on the
> merry rose and find it objectionable when its pointed out.
> why?"
> Because the MR is not the place for political activism. 
> This is a larger proxy war between gay rights groups and the
> churches that sponsor the scouts.
>  
>  
>  "why is it labeled as an attack when it is merely the
> truth?"
>  
> Because, truth or not, activists are continually bringing
> politics into venues where it does not belong. 
> Proselytizing.
> And since most of us have enough class not to engage in
> political debate here, we become a captive audience to
> whatever the political activists are preaching that day.
>  Its incredibly inconsiderate and rude.
> If you disagree with policy, write a letter and lobby the
> board to change it.  But don't fire off cheap shots at
> fellow scadians as Penance or as an Indulgence against your
> own shortcomings.  Because thats all this was:  she
> publicly declared her adoption of a “righteous cause” to
> compensate for her own defects of character. Then browbeat
> the OP with her moral “superiority”.  Next month,
> she’ll regret exploiting the illegals who mow her yard,
> and we’ll all be subjected to a rant about Atenveldt.
>  
> "facts are facts and bigotry is, for many of us,
> unacceptable in this day and age."
> We will not tolerate intolerance, eh?  Whats next?  Pick
> at military vets in the SCA because of DADT?  Pick at
> Scadian Jews because of Gaza?  Boycott the Kingdom of
> Atenveldt because of Arizona immigration law?  (sorry guys,
> no Pennsic for you this year).   Thats where this path
> leads.
>  
> "how it is ok for people to take exception to others
> pointing out the facts of an organization they happen to
> support and claim that doing so is some kind of attack."
> Because the topic is more complex than the Strawmen that
> have been presented. So it invites debate on issues that
> have divided this country - divided families, divided
> friends, divided work associates. Those of us who have
> directly experienced this carnage are left with three
> choices: 1)  engage in a debate that will likely result in
> a firestorm and negatively affect relationships in the SCA
> that we value dearly, 2) politely ignore the recurring
> lectures of what warmongering racist sexist homophobes we
> surely are,  3) vote with our feet.
> I handle political issues in RL, and the one thing I am
> certain of is this: if you bring it here, it will tear this
> group apart.
> Please keep the Culture Wars out of our hobby. We don’t
> want to be converted.  Even when we agree with you.
>  
> Cheers
> Fen
> 
> 
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