[MR] funny how people get about what they find ok

the.lady.phoenix at gmail.com the.lady.phoenix at gmail.com
Thu Jun 10 00:10:00 PDT 2010


Sir Logan,

I would also, like to point out that I know of more then a few scouts
that were kicked out because they had a LGBT parent or guardian, or
*invoke your choice of deity here* both parents/guardians!  Why punish
the child for what the parents are?  Call me too modern if you must,
but I don't believe we should punish or persucute anyone for something
that they didn't do or have no control over.

Regards,
Sara

On 10/06/2010, logan <logan at ebonwoulfe.com> wrote:
> so somebody promotes a boy scouts of america demo, which is fine by some
> folks.  then, someone points out that its an organization that promotes
> hatred and bigotry, which is true and is clearly defined by their own self
> promotion, well..... ever since the mormons took over in the 1980s and now
> sponsor over 60,000 troops and have pushed their agenda and dogma into the
> organization.  i was part of that organization as a child and was, until i
> stated i was an atheist and was kicked out, a life scout.  the fact that
> this organization still sits on a congressional charter from 1910 that
> declares it as "a patriotic organization" and allows it to use federal and
> state facilities which are funded by our taxes is appalling (not to mention
> illegal) since no organization that practices discrimination is supposed to
> have access and free use of public facilities.  yet, the scouts cost the us
> military over $5 million dollars every time they put on one of their
> jamborees on a military base while only paying their $1 annual rent.  some
> of us, the ones that the scouts in their own charter (well, since the change
> in the 80s), say are morally deficient take great exception.  its funny that
> when a person straps a bomb to himself and claims a duty to his god above
> all men, all governments, and all things he is considered dangerous but when
> an organization makes that same claim behind a child working on a merit
> badge in video games or knot tying its ok.  as an atheist and the son of a
> homosexual i find the very nature of the bigotry and hatred that is the
> mission statement of the boy scouts of america to be patently un-american
> and offensive.  some folks, apparently, wish to ignore that here on the
> merry rose and find it objectionable when its pointed out.  why?  why is it
> not ok to point out the facts about someones sacred cow?  why is it labeled
> as an attack when it is merely the truth?
>
>
>
> back in 1972 the scouting handbook for scoutmasters stated, as its first
> rule:  Rule number 1: You do not undertake to instruct Scouts, in any
> formalized manner, in the subject of sex and family life. The reasons are
> that it is not construed to be Scouting's proper area, and that you are
> probably not well qualified to do this.  now it claims that a person who is
> a homosexual is incapable of morality and a person who does not serve their
> god is corrupt.  i fully support the scouts freedom of association as soon
> as they admit that they are a private organization and they stop accepting
> federal (my tax money) funding while holding onto a doctrine of bigotry an
> hatred.
>
>
>
> still, i wonder how it is ok for people to take exception to others pointing
> out the facts of an organization they happen to support and claim that doing
> so is some kind of attack.  facts are facts and bigotry is, for many of us,
> unacceptable in this day and age.
>
>
>
> regards
>
> logan
>
>
>
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