[MR] peerage idea was Re: Marshal Questions

[Becky McEllistrem]

Yes I should change the subject heading.

My concern that comes up from what I've seen on orders where I'm a member, is members talking about people like they were witnessing their actions from yesterday when in fact they haven't interacted with or seen that person for more than a year.

A lot happens in a year.  At that point your knowledge could only be what they want a peer to see via email.

There is the important idea that one associate not forwarded in any way from 10 years isn't necessarily credible either but not having any associates for many years is a concern to me.  I understand that some peers are too busy doing themselves but shouldn't they also be encouraging students.

Another important point is that yes most peers encourage all people to do their best.  My concern are those who haven't played in many years who want to have the same weight on a polling as those that have played regularly and those peers who continue to do their own while not accepting and encouraging associates.  I believe the responsibility of a peer is to do both and while most of my peerage friends do both, my concern is the peer who doesn't yet still wants the same weight in a polling order. 

Logan brings up an important point, that Crowns automatically apply the weight of the voice as they see fit already.  I think it would be nice to have something more obvious.

Rebecca

--- On Wed, 7/21/10, logan <logan at ebonwoulfe.com> wrote:

> From: logan <logan at ebonwoulfe.com>
> Subject: Re: [MR] Marshal Questions
> To: atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 10:23 AM
> pollings carry only the weight the
> crown associates with the messenger and
> altering that based on how many students they may, or may
> not, have is
> silly.  also whether they live within a particular zip
> code or not really
> has no bearing at all on the counsel they offer the
> crown.  using me as an
> example, since i live 500 miles away now, is
> applicable.  do i still have
> relevant counsel to offer on a knight candidate even though
> im physically
> that far away?  well sure.  i know the fighting
> community in the sca pretty
> well and that community in atlantia better than most. 
> my location isnt
> relevant when discussing someone i have witnessed for the
> last 10 years.
> living in the southern end of the kingdom there have always
> been candidates
> from the northern most reaches that i knew nothing, at all,
> about.  not so
> much in the fighting community as candidates for the
> chivalry are highly
> specialized and the pool is very very small.  however,
> with say the golden
> dolphin or the sea stag my knowledge of a candidate that
> lived in the
> northern reaches of the kingdom was probably very limited
> and my polling
> would reflect that deficiency.  trying to define how
> much "weight" can be
> assigned to someones polling based on location or the size
> of their stable
> isnt feasible nor does it make much sense.
> 
> regards
> logan
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> [mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org]
> On Behalf Of Becky
> McEllistrem
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 6:18 AM
> To: atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: Re: [MR] Marshal Questions
> 
> Here's an interesting follow up question that came up
> during a group
> conversation online last night.  
> 
> 
> Should knights (and perhaps all peers) be required to have
> associates in
> order for their opinion to be considered valid on a
> polling?
> 
> 
> IE you have no associates?  Then you may discuss
> candidates for an order but
> your polling is invalid or carries half the weight of the
> pollings from
> those that do have associates.
> 
> Don't know of kingdom or society law would have to change
> for that to happen
> which is the direction most of the discussion took most of
> the time.
> 
> A side tangent to that was - do you live in kingdom? 
> No then your polling
> is half the weight of those that do live in kingdom.
> 
> Doubt any serious change in this direction would ever
> happen but it was an
> interesting subject I'd never thought about before.
> 
> Rebecca
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