[MR] cheap/free food handling certification site

[Joe S]

I worked at a BSA camp that partially fell in Cecil County, MD. We had a
song about the county fair and there might have been a verse about roadkill
food too.

-Gawin Kappler

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Karen Summerfelt-Hume <
chagankhulan at gmail.com> wrote:

> Based on the various events I've organized in Maryland the whole aspect of
> permits, certification and such seem to fall primarily - though not
> completely - in the realm of the site and/ or the county the site is in.
>  In
> most of the cases where some sort of permit is required, we've had to send
> someone to the county office to sit through a class - what they call the
> "George the Germ" movie and talk.  In other counties we've only needed to
> get a "temporary food permit" for a one day event.  No test, no fee, no
> certificate.  Only once have we actually had an inspector come and go
> through the kitchen while we were cooking.  We passed with flying colors.
> So the best bet is to ask the site what they require - it's usually in the
> contract anyway - and follow whatever proceedure is needed.  It's generally
> pretty simple and basic common sense.  The folks who really have to jump
> through hoops are the licensed caterers and restaurants and we don't fall
> into that category.  I do vaguely recall that one site in Virginia did
> require a certified food handler to be on site and in the kitchen -
> Virginia, I think - and we had such a person so the issue was moot.  In
> that
> case the food handler had to have State certification which is a whole
> different level of tests, education and such.  That lady works at a federal
> food facility, thus she's gathered as many state certifications as
> possible.
>
> This will make you roll your eyes - Cecil County Maryland's number one
> concern for one day food permits.....You may not serve Road Kill!  It is
> actually specified in their rules. They actually had a major case against a
> vendor years ago.  His burgers were made of    "assorted, uncertified or
> inspected meats that could not be identified as what was advertised."
> Somebody ratted on him - he was collecting road kill and processing it into
> hamburger.
>
> Safe food handling isn't all that difficult.  There are lots of good
> guidelines available.  The trick is to actually follow them!
>
>
> Chagan
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 2:02 PM, logan <logan at ebonwoulfe.com> wrote:
>
> > ahhh, gotcha.  my brain saw "certification" and read "permit".  still, i
> > would check with your local health department to see if they even
> recognize
> > these things before spending the money.  i am curious though and might
> take
> > one myself just to see the questions.
> >
> > regards
> > logan
> >
> > "I never did give them hell. I just told the truth, and they thought it
> was
> > hell."
> > Harry S Truman
> > "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his
> > vengeance need not be feared"
> > Niccolo Machiavelli
> > For your armouring needs please visit:
> > www.ebonwoulfe.com/armory.htm
> >
> > www.ebonwoulfe.com
> >
> > For worldwide listings of fighter practices please visit:
> > www.fighterpractice.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alric [mailto:alric at alricthemad.com]
> > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 1:53 PM
> > To: logan
> > Cc: 'sca atlantia'
> > Subject: Re: [MR] cheap/free food handling certification site
> >
> > Your Grace,
> > I believe the difference between a permit (as you indicated, issued by
> > the local health department) and the food handler certification is;
> > Certification = 'I have taken the class and proved I understand the
> > material'
> > Permit = Health Dept has looked over your operation and deemed it safe
> > (as of issuance of the permit), follow up inspections required.
> >
> > I believe some health department rules require a certified food handler
> > for an event or location to obtain a permit.
> >
> > I imagine the original post was for folks to have an opportunity to
> > learn about safe food handling for a gathering and even to benefit their
> > camps at Pennsic.
> >
> > YIS
> > Alric
> > > food handling permits are issued by some states but mostly are handled
> > > through city/county/municipality health departments.  there is a big
> > > difference between a legit, government issued, food handlers permit and
> > an
> > > "online food handlers permit".  the main difference is that one is
> > > recognized by the state/city/county health inspector and one isnt.  ;^)
> > >
> > > regards
> > > logan
> > >
> > > "I never did give them hell. I just told the truth, and they thought it
> > was
> > > hell."
> > > Harry S Truman
> > > "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his
> > > vengeance need not be feared"
> > > Niccolo Machiavelli
> > > For your armouring needs please visit:
> > > www.ebonwoulfe.com/armory.htm
> > >
> > > www.ebonwoulfe.com
> > >
> > > For worldwide listings of fighter practices please visit:
> > > www.fighterpractice.com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> > > [mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Gwyn
> > > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:42 PM
> > > To: sca atlantia
> > > Subject: [MR] cheap/free food handling certification site
> > >
> > > As Baronial chirurgeon for the Barony of Sacred Stone, I have seen some
> > > pretty poor food handling practices at events and even Pennsic War over
> > the
> > > years.  Having feast cratted at outdoor events and outdoor kitchens, I
> > know
> > > it's hard to be perfect, but I think that everyone who feastcrats and
> is
> > a
> > > chirurgeon should have a basic knowlege of food safety. So I found this
> > > site: http://www.efoodhandlers.com/CourseMain.aspx
> > > they advertise that they offer fda compliant certifications per state
> for
> > > only $10.00 and you can take the class and take the test for FREE!  My
> > > favorite word. You only pay the $10.00 if you want to print out the
> > > certificate.  You can also print out a wallet card and ID badge and
> even
> > > upload your photo for the same ten bucks. can't beat that. so take a
> few
> > > minutes, read the course, take the test and be up to date on safety.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Joseph J. Shaffer
Graduate Student - Belger Lab
Curriculum in Neurobiology
University of North Carolina
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