[MR] Atlantia Digest, Vol 87, Issue 16

[logan]

you make a lot of assumptions, or at least you hint at such.  i assure you
that for the most part those within the marshallate on a kingdom and society
level weigh heavily on changes to the rules.  it certainly isnt a situation
of poor lowly "peasant archers" that have been treated poorly because of
their position in our sport.  it is, in fact, quite the opposite.  you, like
anyone else, have the right to enter into the marshallate training program
and enter into any discussions related to what occurs on the field.  being
someone that has been part of that body for nearly twenty years as well as
someone who has participated as a fighter/target for longer i can assure you
that each and every rule change is discussed and weighed before any changes
are made.  there are a ton of experienced combat archers involved in rule
changes and having worked intimately with our kingdom earl marshal and all
of his deputies i have a lot of faith in their commitment to our sport and
to those that wish to use us as their targets.  i hope that you will give
them a little more credit, i think they deserve it.

just a side note, while the longbow (and any hand drawn missile weapon for
that matter) did play a part in medieval warfare it was, in fact, a small
part.  im not sure what point you were trying to make with that or what you
are/were implying and im only asking for clarification as it reads as though
you are expressing some concern with being looked at as a second class
citizen or something.  while that was true for archers in period i promise
you that is not at all the way it is viewed in this kingdom.

regards
logan

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From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
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Thank you. This was a most interesting reply. I sincerely doubt that any
group of fighters including you would allow those who do not fight at all,
say, a bunch of target archers, to decide to change the rules of your
weapons game, all the while telling you that you should not be consulted
because of course you don't know what's good for you! I would never presume
to change the rules of your game if I do not intimately understand and
participate in your game. I may be but a lowly peasant archer whose
acquaintance you will never make, but suffice it to say, I politely disagree
that archers should not have been widely consulted on the rules changes,
which are not by any stretch of the imagination without unintended
consequences for how, where, and even if we play our game. Yet I do agree
that acceptance is the best path: I am sure I will have no more powerful
voice in our 21st century version of medieval life than my kind had in the
days in which we lived by the longbow and won
  wars for the English.

Nuala of Needwood






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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 21:59:13 -0400
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the crown chooses who their champion is based on whatever criteria they
wish.  there is a competition that declares someone the winner and they
become the royal archer much like the royal brewer but those are very
different.

as to your question regarding changes to rules and whether or not that is an
attempt to "kill archery in atlantia" while atlantia is, without question,
the driving force in the whole of the sca it is doubtful that rules made on
a society level are made to have some nefarious effect on atlantia alone.
all of our martial disciplines undergo constant review and rules are changed
as concerns become apparent.  sometimes those concerns are, well, pretty
silly and based on a bunch of "could be", "what if", might happen", "i
think", type of idiocy.  nonetheless, rules are rules and we all have to
adapt.  when it comes to rule changes it doesnt make a lot of sense to ask
those that are effected since the bias will almost always be "i like the way
we do it" so consulting archers, or fighters, or rapier folk, etc about
concerns that will change their game makes little sense.  the hope, and i do
say that with a straight face no matter how hard it is sometimes, is that
those folks that raise their hands and become empowered with "safety" are
actually looking out for the greater good.  sometimes they are wrong, more
often they are right.  however, what we all must do is accept any changes
and then provide feedback, if needed, should things need to be changed.

regards
logan

"I never did give them hell. I just told the truth, and they thought it was
hell." 
Harry S Truman 
"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his
vengeance need not be feared"
Niccolo Machiavelli
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