[MR] FW: Term Usage
Geffrei Maudelyene
geffrei at triad.rr.com
Mon Sep 28 13:21:51 PDT 2009
I have only been asked to be a judge on this topic once. At the time my
remarks were concerning two of the fighters out of a small group of Youth
Combatants that should not get the award. My comments were of one that
whined excessively when coming to the MoL to report her losses. The other
was a boy that while he didn't know of it the first time but on a few other
occasions after I called it to his attention, kept hitting me in the back of
the head with his sword. It was a very well padded sword of the kind used
for YC but I thought one warning was/should have been sufficient; especially
with one of his parents in attendance.
I think some of the desired actions looked at for determining who won this
award was someone that quickly and graciously called accepted killing shots
from his opponent. A good "death flutter" while amusing and appreciated may
or may not have been taken into consideration. In several years of sitting
at the MoL table, I have really only seen one fighter truly act rudely
towards his opponents and marshal. In that particular case, his warrant to
fight was already on probation. I am quite sure that was enough to have his
card confiscated on a more permanent fashion.
That being said, there are courteous fighters and then there are Courteous
fighters.
>From a senior level history class so long ago that many of our present
fighters had not even started school, or in many cases were not even born
yet; I remember a class where chivalry as a concept was discussed for
several hours. According to the class, it became a cause that emerged from
ladies in the French and English courts writing poetry or letters to their
corresponding friends and their lovers. This concept did spread to other
courts in Europe. The textbook for that week, (we had a different textbook
every week) was the Diary of Anne Boleyn. The chief subjects in the poems
and letters were either Charlemagne, King Arthur, or Robinhood stuff. In any
case, it was a very late period concept. In almost cases, the concept of
Chivalry was intertwined with Courtly Love.
As they were the forerunners of our modern romance novels, I don't really
know them well enough to apply them in an SCA fighting setting. Do you get
extra points for being a knight in shining armor?
One internet search found these sites, I don't know the authors or
authenticity.
http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~chaucer/special/lifemann/love/ben-love.h
tm
http://www.heraldica.org/topics/orders/knights.htm
http://www.middle-ages.org.uk/courtly-love.htm
http://medievalhistory.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_ideals_of_chivalry_and_c
ourtly_love
Geffrei
...
thats why i am asking those that have judged others as less or more
"chivalrous" to offer some insight on how they come to those conclusions
whether they mean something chivalric or something courteous. having a
better understanding of the criteria in which we are being judged would be a
good thing. ;^)
...
regards
logan
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