[MR] 'Point of Honor' - Re: defining terms

[logan]

and how would you react if, say, you took my leg and then took your own and
i yielded the fight to you?  the few times it has been offered to me after i
had been fighting for a couple of years i refused it.  only one time was
there an issue with it, every other time my opponent stood back up or
repositioned his arm to continue the fight.  the one time, and this cemented
my opinion on the practice, i was in a tourney in trimaris.  a fighter
legged me and then made a grand spectacle of him striking his own leg.  the
crowd cheered "point of chivalry!".  prior to the fight commencing i asked
him to regain his original position and not take his own leg.  he fused and
said that his knight taught him that to not do so would be a mark against
his own virtue.  i told him to give me the chance to gain renown and to
please rise.  he refused.  so, at lay on, i chopped my own arms off and
yielded.  he came to me later with his knight to tell me that i robbed him
of displaying his chivalry.  huh?  im glad to see the practice falling away.


i do understand, and accept, that most folks think they are doing the right
thing.  its similar to offering someone single combat in a melee (which i
also refuse when offered unless its a timed battle and im the last one on
our side and we need the extra time).  anytime we remove the purity of our
contests we dilute it with opinions on what is right and wrong.  since
opinion vary greatly and people emotions tend to get involved when an
opinion of someone else doesnt match their own i feel the practice is more
problematic than enhancing.  keeping it simple removes that and, i think,
improves the flow of the contest.

.02 thrown in  ;^)
regards
logan

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-----Original Message-----
From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Cian Conor
MacQuaid
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:31 AM
To: Merry Rose
Subject: Re: [MR] 'Point of Honor' - Re: defining terms

...
> really is a "point of honor" why has it not been offered to me in over a
> decade?  i would assume that it is because my opponent wants to win the
...
> regards
> logan

FWIW, I would offer it to you. True, this may be academic since I am
unlikely to be in a position of offering, but I would. I confess that I
might be so astonished that it would take a moment. I have done it in
tourney, in Coronet and in Crown. It isn't all about winning. I do it
because I think it is the right way to play. Part of it is how I was
raised and part of it just is. I have no strong opinion about whether
other fighters should or not, just that I do. Offering to let the other
fighter yield never occurred to me until I saw it done, however. I am
still processing that one.

Cian
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