[MR] 'Point of Honor' - Re: defining terms

Siegfried siegfried at crossbows.biz
Wed Sep 30 06:55:10 PDT 2009


> you do understand that when someone says "My lord, I would love to give you
> a point of honor, but I fear I may lose to you even in your wounded state"
> that the opposite message is conveyed when they do?

Yes, I understand completely how some people might see/feel that.
Personally, I don't.

>  if it
> really is a "point of honor" why has it not been offered to me in over a
> decade?

I'm sure it's because of your great level of skill that very few
fighters could feel comfortable still having a chance at winning against
you in that situation.  And relish instead the hard fought benefit they
got of arming/legging you.

And yes, I realize that I'm double-speaking here.  On one hand I'm
saying "It's a honor when someone doesn't do it"  in others:  "It's an
honor when someone does".

I think that this really comes down to situation.  If your grace were to
give me a 'point of honor' in combat, I would be joyous, because I know
of your high prowess, and my 'medium' status there.  It means the battle
would go a little longer, and I would enjoy the combat with you longer.
 Rather than the 'gentle beatdown' that otherwise would be about to
occur. :-D   Simply because we each know each other's skill level, and
are comfortable with that.

This is especially the case in two fighters who fight often.

On the flip side your grace, if I were to give YOU a 'point of honor'.
I think everyone watching on, would quickly see it as me being 'quite
silly', or 'stupid' ;)  Not honorable or courteous or chivalric.

And to that end, I would never expect to see two people fighting, and
someone offer a 'point', if they didn't know each others skill levels
well enough, that they were both comfortable with the situation.

Or again, if someone is just having fun / being silly.  For to many,
they enjoy the 'fun' of the combat, and the journey, more than the
winning.  Though I realize that statement sits uneasily in the ears of
many experienced fighters.

> just giving a point of view from the other side of the coin.  i dont think
> we can determine which one is right or wrong or that either cant be both.
> but it is always better to understand the opposite opinion even if we dont
> agree with it, right?  ;^)

Absolutely my friend!

Barun Siegfried - Barony of Highland Foorde




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