[MR] defining terms like chivalry courtesy etc

[logan]

i think that is what goes on anyway since ive never seen the winner of a
tourney ever receive the "most chivalrous" recognition as well even though
he clearly acted in a chivalric manner by besting those that challenged him
through skill and courage.  the question remains the same even if we change
the terminology to more closely reflect its meaning and call it "most
courteous fighter".  by what measure do we judge someone as more courteous
during a contest at arms than the rest?  turning an opponent out of the sun
when he has been legged? personally i see that as an expected act of good
sportsmanship.  or is it simple courtesy since it certainly is not required
by the rules?  if so, then every fighter deserves this recognition since
every fighter does it.  or do we look at the man who legs the most opponents
during the list?  are there displays of courtesy on the field that are not
simply good sportsmanship?  are the two words the same in this situation?

regards
logan

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-----Original Message-----
From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Becky
McEllistrem
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 6:27 PM
To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
Subject: [MR] defining terms like chivalry courtesy etc

In rethinking my last comment, it's not really that hard to define courtesy.
It's not all that relative a term.  We all know what we should be doing.  We
all know how we want to be treated and how we should treat each other.

We like to engineer these concepts as complicated because we want to come up
with ways to excuse actions we know we shouldn't be doing.  I've been sucked
into that and caught myself later.  

As to the historical term of chivalry I've done no research into that but it
seems to me that those with a conscience know how to best behave on a field
and off a field.  Unfortunately we are capable of working our way out of a
conscience and from what I understand it's pretty difficult to grow one
back.

Competitions that look for the "most chivalrous" fighter seem to cause
confusion because of historical references.  Maybe we should be looking for
the "most courteous" fighter.  That goes back to our conscience and what it
tells us we should be doing on or off the field.

Rebecca
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