[MR] TRU Cost to outfit Nu fighter
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Fri Sep 25 17:15:17 PDT 2009
sorry for slow reply, been busy. i recall the conversation of about $200 to outfit.
(that would be a fantastic A&S for a war, huh) but i stand by "the boast":
"a brand new guy, can wear a sport suit better than ours for about $200"
(Take new guys by pairs - you will see why in a minute.)
helm - Ashcraft baker, h-99 spangen, $70* BUT upgrade to the 12 guage if can.
(or get the stainless budget bascinet by iron monger for $130, i put 2 noobs in $100 at pennsic sale.)
padding - black sticky back foam from windrose $8*
black football chin cup & strap - sporting goods store$9* (linemans astroturf version, or some like army paratrooper chin strap - army navy store)
aventail - 10 oz leather scrap. 4 triangles, 4 squares; 10 inch sides, bigger for bigger guys.
half gauntlet, best for a new guy to buy, ulf edmunderson (count sinclairs squire) $20*
1/3 stick rattan, $9*, see your favorite rattan seller on street corner under lamp post.
(shaped by powertools of those in your canton. forget knives! free! avoids needing gloves!!!)
sword basket hilt, jeweledrose( 1029) ebay - $16.50* (includes combined shipping)
shield basket hilt, jeweledrose( 1029) ebay - $16.50* (includes combined shipping)
basket hilt hardware, nuts and screws from Lowes Hardware $5*
shield blank ulf edmunderson (count sinclairs squire) $20*
favorite color of duct tape - walmart paint section $4*.
favorite other color of electrical tape - (for edges) walmart $3*.
athletic cup - walmart $15*.
surcoat sewn from 4 yards of broadcloth (2 or 3 heraldic colors)- walmart $12*
thread and bias tape for sewing - walmart $4*
HERE IS WHERE THE TALENT AND TIME IS:
(chest, arm; forearm - elbow - tricept, leg; upper thigh, knee built in, and shin. )
3/16 inch 4 ft x 4 ft of abs plastic from piedmont plastics plant 4 miles from achbars house, $38.42
only the knees will have 2 rivets each. see Callidores legs or Al Altans for reference
(you are splitting a 4 x8 sheet between 2 folks, find someone who knows how to bend plastic, hey
- you wouldnt buy leather and give it to any idiot with a knife would you? nope. find experienced plastic worker, no rough edges, or dark victory looking mess, etc.)
since the weight of the armor is low, will use 2 yrds of 3 inch woven elastic strap from hancock fabrics. $3* (forget leather straps, its covered by surcoat, elastic doesnt bind, sewn in)
grand total ($243.42*)
(hey i included a cup, then fancy tape and a surcoat to make it all pretty, else it would be
(by the way, i love my ward guantlets too. how bout some of those nice ebonwolf basket hilts if you want hand protection. but forget leather, man. been neetsfoot oiling my leather chest every 6 months for 21 years now. they didnt have ABS plas back then! darned leather straps have to be replaced every year! yep the biggest expense is [helmet, shield, and hands])
> --- On Thu, 9/24/09, Achbar Ibn Ali wrote:
>> This question came up
>> tonight. Is it possible to armor a new
>> fighter for close to $200.00? My view is that
>> the Helm alone would
>> cost about that much?
i prefer 200 helms... but realize with my mouth, i should be wearing $1000 helms :-)
> Subject: Re: [MR] The Cost to armor a New fighter?
> Unfortunatly I have had problems with timely shipping with Ashcraft Baker. I
> discovered when I availed myself of thir incredable price for 3 or more
> shield or sword baskets that they do not stock them. I had ordered 6 for
> myself and Canton members expecting something they were offering such a good
> deal on to be an in stock item, and therefore having a quick turn
> around...instead I had to wait close to 2 months for them. I ordered some
> helms from them some years ago, and also had a unusually long wait for
> someting that should be on the shelf, stick in a box, and mail.
> >> I'd actually put the biggest dent against the budget to be gauntlets or
> >> the two half-gauntlets and baskets combo. A good pair of munitions grade
> >> clams is going to be at least $100 (Ward Gauntlets, start at $110.
> >> Absolute best bang for the buck IMNSHO).
> >> Demi's run $60-$80 a pair, then another $30 for a shield basket, another
> >> $35-$45 for one sword basket. Low end, $125 to fight one weapon system
> >> and have only one sword and shield in service at a time. There's 60% of
> >> your $200 armor budget.
> > Again I think it depends on whether you are trying to 'get them on the
> > field', inexpensively, in 'decent safe stuff'. Or if you are wanting
> > 'pretty'.
> > I'm always a fan of the former, to a new fighter (especially at
> > colleges/etc where funds may be really limited)
> > In that case, in regards to gauntlets/demis/baskets. If you are buying
> > the helm from Ashcraft-Baker anyway, it's only $15 for a functional
> > basket from them. ($10 each if you buy 3+ at once)
> > And a functional pair of half-gauntlets can be cut out of some thick
> > leather scraps really cheaply. (And reinforced with wax-hardening, or
> > scrap metal plates, depending upon the thickness of the leather to begin
> > with)
> > Which if you had bought leather to make arms/legs with, you are going to
> > have scraps of the right size anyway probably.
> > Siegfried
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