[MR] Rattan vs steel - or vs flesh and bone

Medwyn medwyn.rhyfedd at gmail.com
Wed Sep 16 11:53:41 PDT 2009


I believe there may have been some changes in some states since you 
attended. For those interested in learning more, I believe searching on 
"castle doctrine" would provide relevant results

Garth G. Groff wrote:
> Friends,
>
> I will put .02 more into this thread and then keep my peace. His Grace 
> Logan is more or less correct, as far as I understand the law. This 
> came up repeatedly when I was attending the police academy, and later 
> in law enforcement classes I took at a local college. At that time, in 
> NO state in the US (according to my instructors) could you use deadly 
> force to defend personal property or one's dwelling. Period. Deadly 
> force may be used only to defend one's own life or that of another 
> when the threat is immediate and dire, and that is often a tricky 
> point of law and the facts in the case. Let's hope none of us are ever 
> put in such a situation.
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
> Mungo Napier, Archer of Mallard Lodge
> (mka Garth Groff)
>
>
>
>
> logan wrote:
>> no.  in nc you may not use deadly force to protect property.  you 
>> can, of
>> course, use deadly force to protect yourself or someone else which is 
>> why if
>> you see someone trying to enter your home you have the right to shoot 
>> them
>> dead since you cannot determine if they mean you harm or not.  if you 
>> wake
>> up to a guy walking out of your home with your jewelry box you may not,
>> legally, use deadly force.  thats why its best for the police to only 
>> hear
>> one side of the story if someone invades (or attempts to) your home.
>>
>> regards
>> logan
>>
>> "I never did give them hell. I just told the truth, and they thought 
>> it was
>> hell." Harry S Truman "If an injury has to be done to a man it should 
>> be so severe that his
>> vengeance need not be feared"
>> Niccolo Machiavelli
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
>> [mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Marybeth
>> Lavrakas
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:01 PM
>> To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
>> Subject: Re: [MR] Rattan vs steel - or vs flesh and bone
>>
>>
>>  
>>> So basically, the law is that we just let them come in and
>>> take whatever
>>> they want; there's something wrong with that, imho.
>>>
>>>
>>>     
>>
>> The law on that varies from state to state. I'm pretty sure that NC is a
>> state where you are allowed to defend your property; there have been a
>> couple recent events where homeowners shot intruders and I think 
>> that's what
>> I read in the newspaper articles (ie, that no charges would be filed 
>> against
>> the homeowner).
>>
>> Kateryn Rous
>>   
>
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