[MR] Rattan vs steel - or vs flesh and bone

[Smith CTR Jeffrey C]

New Mexico (I am a former resident, and it's where I joined the SCA) has allowed deadly force to protect property by law since 1907, altho' it appears to be unevenly applied by the courts.

Barcsi Janos 

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From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org [mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Garth G. Groff
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 14:40
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Subject: Re: [MR] Rattan vs steel - or vs flesh and bone

Friends,

I will put .02 more into this thread and then keep my peace. His Grace Logan is more or less correct, as far as I understand the law. This came up repeatedly when I was attending the police academy, and later in law enforcement classes I took at a local college. At that time, in NO state in the US (according to my instructors) could you use deadly force to defend personal property or one's dwelling. Period. Deadly force may be used only to defend one's own life or that of another when the threat is immediate and dire, and that is often a tricky point of law and the facts in the case. Let's hope none of us are ever put in such a situation.

Kind regards,


Mungo Napier, Archer of Mallard Lodge
(mka Garth Groff)




logan wrote:
> no.  in nc you may not use deadly force to protect property.  you can, 
> of course, use deadly force to protect yourself or someone else which 
> is why if you see someone trying to enter your home you have the right 
> to shoot them dead since you cannot determine if they mean you harm or 
> not.  if you wake up to a guy walking out of your home with your 
> jewelry box you may not, legally, use deadly force.  thats why its 
> best for the police to only hear one side of the story if someone 
> invades (or attempts to) your home.
>
> regards
> logan
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> [mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of 
> Marybeth Lavrakas
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:01 PM
> To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: Re: [MR] Rattan vs steel - or vs flesh and bone
>
>
>  
>> So basically, the law is that we just let them come in and take 
>> whatever they want; there's something wrong with that, imho.
>>
>>
>>     
>
> The law on that varies from state to state. I'm pretty sure that NC is 
> a state where you are allowed to defend your property; there have been 
> a couple recent events where homeowners shot intruders and I think 
> that's what I read in the newspaper articles (ie, that no charges 
> would be filed against the homeowner).
>
> Kateryn Rous
>   

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