[MR] How much damage would rattan do?

[Steven Chang]

I think Rodney king received a beating, but it was not meant to kill
him. Theres a difference. Just like when you are fighting a guy with a
ratan sword, your opponent's intention isn't to kill or hurt you. Any
shots you receive to your arm or neck etc is controlled (or supposed
to be).

I believe there is a difference. I know I can take a guy out with the
Escrima sticks (also Ratan) without much difficulty. I doubt if
someone is going to get up if I hit them in the right place.

That said. I don't want the student prosecuted. I just thought it was
weird that the guy didn't stop after his hand was cut. Maybe that
statement about how it was a single cut was true. Though the report I
read was that there were multiple cuts on the chest. I wonder which
one is accurate.



On 9/16/09, logan <logan at ebonwoulfe.com> wrote:
> rodney king was certainly no marital artist or even in shape for that matter
> and he received dozens of blows from batons, kicks, punches, and electric
> shock yet he kept going.  the human body is an incredibly tough machine and
> when coupled with adrenaline, endorphins, or drugs can withstand amazing
> abuse.  im just saying that we should be more realistic than to think our
> rattan batons are adequate tools of defense.
>
> regards
> logan
>
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> hell."
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> vengeance need not be feared"
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
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> Subject: Re: [MR] How much damage would rattan do?
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> Using yourself as an example is not entirely valid.? Your experience in
> boxing and SCA fighting has taught you how to fight through pain.? As our
> own experience has, to a greater or lesser degree.
>
>
>
> We're not talking about a trained martial artist or participant in combat
> sports like us.? We are a pretty small proportion of the population, and I
> suspect that we're less likely to be trying to pull stunts like that guy
> did.
>
>
>
> Your servant aye
>
> Donal
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: logan <logan at ebonwoulfe.com>
> To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Sent: Wed, Sep 16, 2009 1:42 pm
> Subject: Re: [MR] How much damage would rattan do?
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> i never suggested you had to break something, merely that rattan doesnt hit
> with that much force.  and i take full force shots to my
> arms/ribs/shoulders/neck/etc all the time and keep on going (ie im not on
> the ground whimpering).  our skulls are very tough things and i doubt you
> could do any real damage to someones skull with rattan.  rattan also doesnt
> usually have enough mass to cause the damage that say a wooden bat would.
>
> ;^)
> regards
> logan
>
> "I never did give them hell. I just told the truth, and they thought it was
> hell."
> Harry S Truman
> "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his
> vengeance need not be feared"
> Niccolo Machiavelli
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> [mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of
> jbrmm266 at aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:23 PM
> To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: [MR] How much damage would rattan do?
>
>
> You don't have to break anything to incapacitate.? The pain of impact of a
> full-force blow on an arm would probably take they guy out of the fight - or
> the fight out of the guy, depending on how you look at it - and a blow to
> the unprotected head . . . I have this image of a smashed pumpkin.
>
>
>
> Your servant aye
>
> Donal
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: logan <logan at ebonwoulfe.com>
> Cc: 'Merry Rose' <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> Sent: Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:58 pm
> Subject: Re: [MR] Kinda off topic?
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>
>
> take one heck of a shot to incapacitate a guy with rattan.  given how hard
> it is to even break a bone with it because of its inherent flexibility
> beating a man down would be an impressive task indeed!  better to own a gun
> for the bad guys i think.
>
> ;^)
> logan
>
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