[MR] Rattan vs steel - or vs flesh and bone

[Garth G. Groff]

Friends,

I will put .02 more into this thread and then keep my peace. His Grace 
Logan is more or less correct, as far as I understand the law. This came 
up repeatedly when I was attending the police academy, and later in law 
enforcement classes I took at a local college. At that time, in NO state 
in the US (according to my instructors) could you use deadly force to 
defend personal property or one's dwelling. Period. Deadly force may be 
used only to defend one's own life or that of another when the threat is 
immediate and dire, and that is often a tricky point of law and the 
facts in the case. Let's hope none of us are ever put in such a situation.

Kind regards,


Mungo Napier, Archer of Mallard Lodge
(mka Garth Groff)




logan wrote:
> no.  in nc you may not use deadly force to protect property.  you can, of
> course, use deadly force to protect yourself or someone else which is 
> why if
> you see someone trying to enter your home you have the right to shoot 
> them
> dead since you cannot determine if they mean you harm or not.  if you 
> wake
> up to a guy walking out of your home with your jewelry box you may not,
> legally, use deadly force.  thats why its best for the police to only 
> hear
> one side of the story if someone invades (or attempts to) your home.
>
> regards
> logan
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> [mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Marybeth
> Lavrakas
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:01 PM
> To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Subject: Re: [MR] Rattan vs steel - or vs flesh and bone
>
>
>  
>> So basically, the law is that we just let them come in and
>> take whatever
>> they want; there's something wrong with that, imho.
>>
>>
>>     
>
> The law on that varies from state to state. I'm pretty sure that NC is a
> state where you are allowed to defend your property; there have been a
> couple recent events where homeowners shot intruders and I think 
> that's what
> I read in the newspaper articles (ie, that no charges would be filed 
> against
> the homeowner).
>
> Kateryn Rous
>