[MR] College of Heralds

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Well then I would not object to that specific shape with the single point up and lacking a circle around it. I don't think many folks would mix it up with the satanic version either. James ---------- Sent from AT&T's Wireless network using Mobile Email


-----Original Message-----
From: Wolf SilverOak
Sent: 7/24/2009 1:13:33 PM
To: flonzy at hotmail.com , 'Alan MacNeill ' , atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Subject: RE: [MR] College of Heralds
*ahen*

 This was mentioned earlier in the 'discussion'.

http://www.ngw.nl/int/dld/h/heisede.htm

'Knight Arnold of Heisede from 1445'

Origin/meaning:
The arms show a pentagram, taken from the seal of Knight Arnold of Heisede
from 1445. The family owned the area already since the 12th century.

There's your historical heraldic proof, in no uncertain terms.

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Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 9:08 AM
To: Alan MacNeill ; atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [MR] College of Heralds

Other than Arthurian fiction no one has shown heraldric use so far. Use in
churches and superstition has been shown but not historical heraldry. James
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