[MR] HERALDRY and Pentograms
Sandi Rust
feo2mouse at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 23 09:42:04 PDT 2009
I think snopes might be wrong on this one... I met a few folk who "follow the Jedi religion". Personally, if people can make a religion based off of Stranger in a Strange Land and other Heinlein books as well as the Dune series by Hubert and be moderately successful. I say more power to them.
Marie Hélène
--- On Thu, 7/23/09, Isolda de Crosthwaite <isolda1066 at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Isolda de Crosthwaite <isolda1066 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MR] HERALDRY and Pentograms
To: adeliza at bellsouth.net, "Atlantia Group List" <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 9:04 AM
Just thought I'd point out that the Jedi being considered a religion is a
prank. check out the snopes site here:
http://www.snopes.com/religion/jedi.asp. I'd heard this before, an while it
would be funny, it is not true.
:)
Regards,
Isolda de C.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Adeliza of Bristol
<adeliza at bellsouth.net>wrote:
> Folks, can we get a few things straight before we hit the keyboard. Please
> read the first message in a thread before you respond also.
>
> 1. The original decision to ban the circle with star inside as registrable
> heraldry was due to PR reasons, NOT religious NOR authenticity reasons. It
> IS absolutely period and not as a religious symbol. It was the heraldry of a
> knight from Arthurian times (Gawain maybe). It has been prominent in
> history. That was never the question. They were fighting D&D bad PR at the
> time, among other issues, and simply chose not to add another PR windmill to
> have to tilt at, so they said no.
>
> 2. We now live in more open religious times where people are mostly more
> accepting of various religions. Great Britain now acknowledges Jedi as a
> religion! SO, no PR battles mean they no longer feel they must protect the
> SCA from mass ignorance and can change the decision of the past. Yea!
>
> 3. Points up or down, you can not discriminate. This is heraldry remember,
> it is not a public declaration of your religious preference. I do not assume
> those in Crusader gear are all Christians. They may be any number of
> religions, but their persona is a Crusader. Get your religious views in
> check, guys, and get back to the heraldry.
>
> Making the assumptions that only Wiccans will use this charge is wrong and
> may cause you to make quite the fool of yourself. It already sounds like
> there are some chomping at the bit to discriminate against those who will
> use this charge, points up or down. Lets remember this is HERALDRY not
> religion and keep things in context before we start letting some ugly
> aspects of our idealistic Middle Ages creep in.
>
> Religion is a firestorm that does not need to be ignighted here, and I
> believe there is a modern war we are involved in that that illustrates that
> perfectly. Can we please put the religious debate to rest.
>
> Adeliza
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