[MR] My two doubloons on the dead horse....

[T]

I believe  the horse graveyard is full ..... I am going out in search of
another so we can fill that one up too .... seems like we are always
flogging one horse or another ..... :)

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Jack Black of Flint <
qm_blackjack_flint at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Achbar brings up a very valid point, that I think I might have seen glossed
> over a couple of times during this ridiculous farce.
>
> We are supposed to be an educational organization.  One of our biggest
> tools is our ability to walk up to people and say "Hi, I'm so and so, let me
> tell you about this."
>
> As I believe Marie Helene stated, the chances of someone strictly having
> one specific symbol that could have religious complications are slim.
> ((Besides Templar personas, which are the only one that immediately comes to
> mind to have simply one symbol on their shields and tabards.))
>
> I can see why people are concerned about both sides of this horse that
> should have been sent to the knackers some time ago, though, and folks
> within our own organization are proving it.
>
> Yes, people are sheep.  However, the individual person is more intelligent
> than many would give credit for.  It's not until mob mentality comes in,
> that serious problems arise.  If one is truly concerned about using the
> symbol, don't use it.... No one can honestly believe that just because the
> College has removed the ban, that everyone is going to immediately don that
> symbol and start running around, pushing their personal beliefs on others,
> as so many here seem to be saying.  Yes, I believe that there are folks who
> are going to submit devices with the symbol on it, but again, who cares?  If
> they can prove the symbol was used in period, so be it, no matter what
> combination of other symbols around it are used.
>
> Yes, to the general populace, perception is 90% reality.  But the best way
> to influence that perception is to not make a big deal out of a particular
> device at a demo/event, because if the public sees US reacting negatively to
> EACH OTHER, what hope do we have to get folks to join us, and learn for
> themselves the history behind things?
>
> As another gentle pointed out, as a new member to the SCA, just from
> reading this list alone, they have begun to rethink their position on the
> SCA.  I have seen new folks pushed away from this organization for lesser
> things, than what someone may be displaying as a PERSONAL DEVICE.  Just
> because a symbol they have chosen may have one meaning, it may have a
> totally DIFFERENT meaning to the individual.  You may see one symbol that
> you belive represents (insert name of religion you choose to bash here), and
> they may see something that TO THEM symbolizes the unity of heart, mind,
> body, and soul.
>
> All I am asking folks to do is to take a minute, count to ten, and think
> like the rational, educated adults we all are, instead of the lemmings we
> are all acting like, jumping up and down, unhappy because they don't like
> the decision.
>
> Take the effort, do the research if it bothers you, and take the proper
> steps to get it removed, if you feel that is what you need to do.  But
> ranting and raving on a relatively public list, or possibly creating scenes
> at demos/events is not going to help anyone, or anything.  Just like at
> work, it's us and them.  Whether it be Managers and line staff, or SCAdians
> and mundanes.  If we don't work together, we all fail, and after 43 years,
> this dream we all love will come to an end.
>
> And in the immortal words of Forrest Gump, "That's all I have to say about
> that"
>
>  Until the next,
> Yours in service,
>
>
> Cap'n Jack Black of Flint
> ((AKA: BlackJack))
> Lord and Master of "The Raptor"
> Seneschal, Barony of Hidden Mountain
> Brute for Hire
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Achbar Ibn Ali <achbar at earthlink.net>
> To: Roy B. Scherer <rscherer at infionline.net>
> Cc: The Merry Rose <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:00:26 AM
> Subject: [MR] it's perception...not just the facts... See?! This is what am
> talking about
>
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:52:57 -0400, you wrote:
>
>   This is a fun dead Horse to kick, and I see the party continues.
> The humor degenerates and I salute it.  I can't wait until this
> conversation turns to Kingdom recruitment and how each and every one
> of us should do what we can to get new members to join this game.
> Next, we will be talking about period Clowns and Jesters!   That clown
> at least can tie his own balloon dead Horse to kick  LOL    ( smile)
>
>
> Achbar
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