[MR] Authenticity (was pentograms)

[Matt Broadway]

Check the seal of Knight Arnold of Heisede from 1445.

On a side note...  I have a cross upon my arms... and if having a pentagram as a charge on their arms makes somebody enjoy the game a bit more, I say go for it...

Dante della Luna
 


--- On Wed, 7/22/09, Vernon And Susan Willet <willets at bellatlantic.net> wrote:

> From: Vernon And Susan Willet <willets at bellatlantic.net>
> Subject: [MR] Authenticity (was pentograms)
> To: "Merryrose" <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 10:58 AM
> To my friends of the SCA, and to the
> Fair Lydia, in particular, Greetings.
> 
> I see my post has touched a nerve and put the "cat among
> the pigeons", so to speak.  If I seemed dismissive,
> well, I was.  Nor do I apologize for that. We claim to
> be history oriented society but we embrace a large number of
> non-historical concepts.  We are so liberal with our
> interpretation of history that virtually anything
> goes.  Does anyone remember the "10 foot rule".  I
> think His Majesty has put an effective end to that over the
> course of his many reigns, at least on the field of
> combat.  Does anyone mourn for freon can helms? 
> Or carpet armour?  Or plastic elf ears?  These are
> just some of the things which make the legitimate reenactors
> ridcule the SCA. 
> The preponderance of overt pagans is another.
> 
> If you choose to be a Modern Pagan, by all means, do what
> you will.  It is, after all, the Whole of the
> Law.  But why should you bring it into a group which
> already has issues with authenticity?  Shall I hold a
> Mass at an 
> event?  I have seen numerous pagan rituals held at
> events.  Shall I put a crucifix on my arms?  Did I
> mean that there was no representation of a pentagram in all
> of the midlle ages?  Of course not; I am not an idiot,
> nor 
> am I undeucated in history.  But it was, as far as I
> know, never used as a heraldic symbol.  And that is,
> correct me if I am wrong, the subject under discussion.
> 
> I rarely join in the discussions on the MerryRose because I
> am not an active participant, any longer, in the SCA. 
> But sometimes the need to respond overwhelms me and I cannot
> resist it.  If anyone is offended by my remarks, 
> take solace in the fact that the probabilities of your
> meeting me at an event are very slim.  If just one of
> you stopps, thinks about what he/she is doing to the
> credibility of the SCA, and rethinks their position, then
> all of the flaming and (conversely) liberal head-shaking
> will be justified.  I have always espoused unpopular
> causes.  Ask Sir Corby.
> 
> Affectionately,
> Baron Werhener von Ingolstadt
> Former Baron, Caer Mear
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