[MR] pentagrams in devices

[Wolf SilverOak]

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beliefs 'nonsense'.

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-----Original Message-----
From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Vernon And
Susan Willet
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:15 PM
To: Dave Montuori; nodecaf at nodecaf.com
Cc: atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [MR] pentagrams in devices

Just a comment here, on this pagan nonsense.  Being a pagan in medieval 
Europe was a very dicy proposition.  Best bet scenario entailed secret 
meetings of like minded individuals, furitive flitting about in the woods. 
Worst case brought the unwelcome attention of the Inquisition, with its 
attendant hotfoot.  Pagan displays are grotesquely out of period, anyway. 
Pagans date from 1890 or so; Aliester Crowley and the Golden Dawn.  Totally 
fabricated (See Crowleys "True Book of Lies".  There is no authentic 
history, otherwise, since Caesar slaughtered the Druids on the Isle of Man 
and they left no records.  Might as well add flourishes and curling banners 
to your hearaldry, if you are going to allow pentograms.  They are both 
victorian romance.  More history might quell some of the fantasy.  Just my 2

pence.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Montuori" <damont at wolfstar.com>
To: <nodecaf at nodecaf.com>
Cc: <atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MR] pentagrams in devices


>> As a real practicing Pagan, I will say that it is with a sigh of relief
>> that here in the SCA some have finally begun to see past religious
>> prejudices.
>
> As one who has been a member of the College of Arms through the last
> *three* times this issue came up, let me point out that it is *MUNDANE*
> religious prejudices that needed to be overcome.
>
> The only reason the ban was upheld in the 1990s was that too many non-SCA
> people in certain areas of the USA would have seen this as an
> ANTI-religious symbol, which would have been horrid P.R. for the SCA which
> already had a shaky reputation in some of those areas. In the past dozen
> years quite a bit has changed, in this case for the better.
>
> Evan da Collaureo
> Sackbut Herald
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