[MR] Fwd: Why we fight

[Dean A Deal]

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From: Dean A Deal <d.deal.blackberry at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MR] Why we fight
To: Siegfried <siegfried at crossbows.biz>


Well spoken each of you.

I might append that internal rationalizations such as "for glory" "for
Chivalric pursuits" and "for the honor of a lady" must of necessity be
substituted by conventionalizations such as "perfection of the martial art",
or "to enhance the academic understanding of medieval arms and armor" or "to
better understand and appreciate full contact medieval warfare without
harming practitioners."  I believe the key to persuasion is to provide a
specific laser focused analog appropriate to the audience in question.

Diago

  On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Siegfried <siegfried at crossbows.biz> wrote:

> Well said.  I would also add to that, as a 'closest comparison'.  That
> we do this for the same reasons that Boxer's spar, and that Martial
> Artists fight.  It is to increase our own skill level at a marshal art.
>  For the betterment of ourselves, for the enjoyment of the sport, and
> for the friendly competition that this engenders.
>
> Siegfried
>
>
> Wayne Remes wrote:
> > Yesterday the Salesberie Glen Seneschal and I attended a meeting of the
> Granite Quarry NC Town Board to get the approval for Canton use of a Granite
> Quarry Park for our weekly fight practice. At the end of our presentation
> one of the board members asked us "What is the goal of this fight practice
> you wish to hold."  We, of course, had already said at the beginning of our
> presentation that that the SCA was a group that studied the Medieval and
> Rennassance era skills and crafts by actually doing them, and that we were
> looking for a park to hold our medieval combat training sessions in. We had
> also passed around a photo album showing them pictures of SCA events.
> Additionally all the board members had received a email I had sent to the
> Town Manager with extensive info on the SCA and links to online photos
> showing what we do. Still most of them seemed to have trouble getting their
> head around what we wanted to do, or why. I said well, the goal is to
> practice so we can win tourna
> me
> >  nts. Upon reflection I do not think I gave my best answer to the
> question. I have had this question asked me in various forms throughout the
> 25+ years I have been fighting in the SCA, usually by people who have a
> problem with the apparent violence of what we do when fighting. It might be
> a good idea to think about how best to respond to this kind of question now,
> before we are asked, and are fumbling for an appropriate explanation. I
> think individually, we do it for the joy of competition, and to test
> ourselves against other people in a skill that we find fun and rewarding.
> Fighting wise I think our organization provides a set of rules and structure
> not unlike YMCA, Churches, or Parks and Recreation Departments do with
> organized adult flag football, vollyball and basketball, softball and
> baseball leagues. Everyone particpating in activities supported by these
> groups are basically doing it for the same reason we are.  We do it for
> recreation and enjoyment ....exactly like p
> eo
> >  ple who play golf, basketball, baseball and flag or tackle football.
> >
> > Axel
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