[MR] Teachers, shields and history

[David Chessler]

Yes. But checking a few dates did me some good--I had thought that "chivalry"
dated to Charlemagne (~800). Turns out it was his grandfather, Charles Martel
(~715), who was one of the greatest generals of all time, winning his battles
despite inferior numbers and inferior tactics. But learning from his enemies.


The Wikipedia on Charles Martel is quite good, but I couldn't track down the
name of the man, Fulke something, who planted those Motte and Bailey 
"castles" all over northern France at about 20 mile intervals. 

------ Original Message ------
Received: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:24:24 PM EST
From: JBRMM266 at aol.com
To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [MR] Teachers, shields and history

> You're preaching to the choir here, my friend.  :-)
>  
> Your servant aye
> Donal
>  
>  
> In a message dated 1/17/2009 8:02:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> chessler at usa.net writes:
> 
> First  question is when did "modern" coats of arms come into use? The
answer
> seems  to be the 12th C. Before then, the concept does not seem to exist,
> except  as "personal seals" used to sign documents in an age before  
> widespread
> literacy.
> 
> (snip).
> 
> In any event, only a small  minority of Europeans ever had personal
insignia,
> and even fewer had  recognized coats of arms. Only the military class,
which
> was a distinct  class of knights and nobles, would use coats of arms for
> recognition in  battle. Peasants, soldiers, mercenaries, even
non-commissioned
> officers,  had no need for these. The commercial class, merchants, would
have
> had  seals or designs that they used to sign documents.
> --
> Mr.  Satterthwaite
> At the sign of the Bells and Motley
> David Chessler
> At  sign chessler<at>usa.n
> 
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