[MR] 4th Peerage

[Tracy Janicki]

I personally have no feelings either way on adding a  Peerage  for fencing or shopping. I merely find it unfair to disparage the rapier community by claiming that rapier is easier that heavy and there for not worthy of peerage.  My problem is with people saying that others chose rapier because it isn't as dangerous, or difficult physically and emotionally and doesn't require the same commitment.  Peerage question aside, I think it unfair to criticize another person's art.  




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From: Duane Moore <poetamilitarus at yahoo.com>
To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:54:39 AM
Subject: Re: [MR] 4th Peerage

There is only one flaw in that arguement, my lady. 

A couple of times I have been to wars with "Shopping Points". Should we petition the BOD for a Peerage for that too? ;-) 

I have a list of canidiates then....
;-)

Sir Bryce de Byram,OL,OP (Duane M. Moore) 300%Peer-Evil
Baron Caer Mear


--- On Fri, 2/20/09, Tracy Janicki <aine_rua at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Tracy Janicki <aine_rua at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [MR] 4th Peerage
> To: "Hrothgar" <thorgrimm at windstream.net>, atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 11:51 AM
> Please beg my pardon for being impudent on this folks.  I
> have no real feelings either way on the concept of a 4th
> peerage.  There are points in both directions.  But to
> actually imply that rapier should not be a  peerage because
> it's easier, is markedly unjust in my opinion.  There is
> just as much work effort and time put in by our rapier
> fighters as there is by our heavy fighters.  Mind you, I
> fight heavy myself, but still appreciate the amount of
> dedication they have to their chosen martial art.  They
> deserve just as much recognition as anyone else.  I also
> applaud them for the pursuit of  rapier for the love of the
> art.  The don't have delusions of grandeur going in of
> becoming knights, where as I have met many a young heavy
> fighter whose sole ambition was to where a white belt
> usually fair before he had any idea of what that REALLY
> meant.  In short, we accept the war points they provide, so
> they deserve if not recognition in the peerage at least the
>  respect of not only the peerage but the populace as well.
> 
> My two cents, sorry but it had to be said.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Hrothgar <thorgrimm at windstream.net>
> To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:21:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [MR] 4th Peerage
> 
> 
> >  Everyone should be able to aspire to a
> > Peerage someday if that's their wish; to impose
> limits on a group based
> > solely on their choice of fighting (heavy vs. rapier)
> in unfair.
> > Gina MacNeill
> > AKA Lady Rhiannon of Berra, CP
> 
> This issue seems to come up every couple of years. I agree
> completely with 
> Lady Rhiannon that everyone should aspire to a Peerage. It
> is truly the 
> epitome of all that we do. However, the misplaced idea that
> new peerages 
> should be created for each subgroup in the Society is
> ridiculous.
> 
> If one wishes to become a Knight, then one can follow that
> path. The same 
> holds true for Laurel and Pelican. If someone chooses to go
> in another 
> direction, then that is their decision and they should be
> happy with that 
> choice. They should not feel "cheated" that
> whatever their microcosm of 
> interest is not recognized as a peerage worthy pursuit.
> 
> Rapier was only allowed in the SCA as an peripheral
> activity to begin with. 
> Atlantia buying into Ansteorra's White Scarf idea was
> just an end run around 
> the BOD's decision on the matter. People choose rapier
> because it's easier 
> than fighting. The learning curves are vastly different. To
> view them as 
> equal on any level is just wrong. I have no real issue with
> fencing. If a 
> person is unable physically, emotionally, or financially to
> participate as a 
> fighter but want to get a small taste of what it's like
> to be on the field, 
> then rapier is a fine and wonderful thing. But it
> shouldn't be considered a 
> peerage level pursuit.
> 
> Sitting astride a rocking horse brandishing a radio antenna
> about in a 
> menacing manner does not equate to a Knight on a warhorse
> charging into 
> battle.
> 
> Ever Opinionated,
> Hrothgar 
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