Lord Davitt, I seem to recall the Florilegium had a link at one time to a translation of de Naldo's work somewhere. (Yeah, as usual, I can't seem to find it when I need it -- grrrr.) Dangit! Maybe someone else on the MR remembers at least what the title was...??? Best of luck to you, and here's to good eatin'! In service, -- P Mags