[MR] Newbie- I have questions about tent outer decor - Alexandera Glaes Linden Kellehari
chagankhulan at clan-whitewing.org
chagankhulan at clan-whitewing.org
Thu Apr 16 10:11:27 PDT 2009
You mention being told to use light colors on the roof. This is
excellent advice. A canvas tent in white, natural, yellow, tan,
etc...will be cooler and more comfortable in the warm / hot months than
a dark color of canvas such as red, blsck or dark purple. Simple
reason - the dark colors absorb the heat and the light colors reflect
it.
I have had an all red tent which, because it was canvas was still
relatively comfortable but not nearly as comfortable temperature wise
as my current white Ger (Mongolian tent). I also have a canvas
pavilion with a yellow roof and red walls. Temperature wise it's good
but the colors reflect inside as well and you cn get som pretty
interesting effects with the different colors. The woman I bought the
all red tent from was giving it up because - as it was their cooking
tent - it was extrememly difficult, even with the sides open, to tell
what degree of rare/medium/well done the meat was. The same goes for
putting on makeup in the tent. With the sun on a bright yellow roof
you will get a very different appearance in your mirror than from a
white or natural roof.
If it were my choice I'd go with a white or natural roof and blue and
yellow stripes for the walls. As for exterior decoration - tents have
been dagged, painted, appliqued and bedecked with assorted pennants,
pennons, flags and banners. There is a lot you can do and no real
restrictions except, oh, painting the Kings Arms of Atlantia or a
white belt on your tent. (I know of no tent ever knighted but there
was a bus out west once that was...dunno how they put spurs on it) But
that's a story for another time and place. Welcome to Atlantia.
Chagan
P.S. DO make sure your canvas has been waterproofed at a mninimum and
preferably (Like SunForger) it is waterproof, rot & mildew proof and fire
retardant. SuBrella and SunFOrger are commercial brands of canvas with
these treatments already in place. You can go one step further (also
pricier) and get Marine Grade Sunbrella or Sunforger and you will have
canvas that will last well beyond your expectations if cared for properly.
More on that if you're interested.
'C'
>
> Hi- I finally have the mtrls and the use of my Mom's ind. sewing machine,
> (which is the size of a small country! ) is there regulations on what you
> can put on a tent? I wanted to make some really neat panels so I can
> either
> connect two 10 X 10's (when I have the ankle biters) or one for myself. I
> had
> yellow and blue mtrl and was told that I could not do a yellow and blue
> tent,
> so I bought some black and white (white for the roof- I was told it
> helped)
> I was thinking about yellow and black with the Fleur counter Fleur
> (one overlaps the other) and blue and white or blue and black etc...
> . Can I put a small spike on my tent? I rather ask now than waste
> material,
> $$$ and time. Thanks to anyone that can help me!
>
>
> Sandra Glaes Payne Alexandera Glaes Linden
> Kellehari
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> 1. Re: Drawing from a hat (Kelly Keck)
> 2. Re: Drawing from a hat (logan)
> 3. Permanent Crown Sites [LONG] (egeorges)
> 4. Coronation Morning Court Report - Jason & Gerhild - April 11,
> 2009 (Mike Brindle)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:32:05 -0400
> From: Kelly Keck <kellylynne at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [MR] Drawing from a hat
> To: Merry Rose <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
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> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Megan Shogren
> <brockenspectre at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Would two hats be better than one- a hat for Spring and a hat for Fall,
> with the?groups expressing a preference for which hat they want to be in??
> The
> ones with no particular preference could be used to even the numbers, if
> necessary.
>
> That's a good idea. The ones willing to do either could go in both
> hats, with a re-draw if the same name were pulled twice.
>
> Adriana
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:32:32 -0400
> From: "logan" <logan at ebonwoulfe.com>
> Subject: Re: [MR] Drawing from a hat
> To: "'Merry Rose'" <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
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> sure, why not. those with no preference could be put in both hats and
> once
> one of their tickets is drawn the other becomes null. makes sense to me
> and
> for groups like caer mear that think hosting crown so close to sapphire
> would be difficult (even if i dont agree with that fear).
>
> regards
> logan
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
> [mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Megan
> Shogren
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 11:31 AM
> To: Merry Rose
> Subject: Re: [MR] Drawing from a hat
>
> Would two hats be better than one- a hat for Spring and a hat for Fall,
> with
> the?groups expressing a preference for which hat they want to be in?? The
> ones with no particular preference could be used to even the numbers, if
> necessary.
>
> ?
> -Kat Ferneley
> of Caer Mear
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Alan MacNeill <gormofberra at gmail.com>
> To: "atlantia at atlantia.sca.org" <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 11:19:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [MR] Permanent Site for Crown Tourney
>
>>Now, we would be happy to be in the mix for a Fall Crown, and I'd
> imagine they'd be willing to be in the mix for a Spring one, but I
> think it would be preferable to let groups declare, maybe a year in
> advance "Yes, we'd like to host X Crown" and draw from those who
> put
> their names in the hat, perhaps favoring those who haven't done it
> yet/lately or whatever...but let the groups declare their readiness.
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:01:26 -0400
> From: "egeorges" <egeorges at cox.net>
> Subject: [MR] Permanent Crown Sites [LONG]
> To: <atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org>
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> I have finally made my way through most of the emails on this topic, and
> here's my 2 farthings....
>
> 1) The pros of having a permanent site are (a) significant lightening of
> the
> load on the Kingdom in terms of finding event bids for two of the 12
> Kingdom
> events on the calendar, (b) certainty for participants and staff in terms
> of
> knowing what to expect for Crown Tourney. That certainty has a number of
> ancillary benefits:
>
> (i) Participants and staff can plan far in advance to attend or not
> attend,
> to work or not to work
> (ii) Site lore will be readily available because of the fact that the site
> is frequently used. My guess is that after a year or two Crown Tourney
> will
> be an event that practically runs itself because the logistics of it will
> be
> largely worked out. As long as we are organized about preserving that
> site
> lore (and god knows we have our share of ridiculously organized
> individuals
> to handle a task like that), autocratting Crown becomes a relatively cut
> and
> dried proposition.
> (iii) Because autocratting Crown can be so routine, it could become an
> ideal
> event to train aspiring autocrats who want to get involved with
> autocratting
> Kingdom level events. I am a BIG believer in creating opportunities for
> people to learn new service skills in the SCA. Here in Ponte Alto,
> members
> who want to try their hand at autocratting are encouraged to autocrat our
> Bloodbath event, because it is by far the most routine event to autocrat.
> That gives them something to cut their teeth on and build the confidence
> to
> take on a more complicated event afterwards.
>
> (2) Cons of the proposal of a permanent site are (a) People living far
> from
> the center of the Kingdom will have to travel significant distances to
> Crown, and will not have the option of encouraging a Crown bid close to
> home
> to alleviate the travel, (b) A sense of sameness can set in with Crown, an
> event that already has trouble attracting people because it is a
> "specialty"
> event that has little going on other than Some A&S competitions and of
> course, Crown Tourney itself, and (c) autocratting remotely does propose
> some challenges and limits who can be involved in autocratting and in
> doing
> other jobs to those people who can take the time from work to travel for
> several days,(d) the risk that non-local individuals without relationship
> to
> the region and the site could be less than rigorous in the care of site
> and
> staff than those who are local, and (e) it locks us into a long term
> contract, which is always a risk financially and logistically.
>
> There are obviously responses to many of these points on both sides.
>
> I am personally in favor of a permanent site for Crown because I think
> that
> many of the cons have responses that minimize their impact:
>
> (a) Yes, living far from the center of the Kingdom means that you have to
> travel more to get to Kingdom events more often than not. But realize
> that
> Atlantia comparatively speaking, is a geographically compact kingdom.
> There
> are Baronies in the Midrealm that take nearly nine hours to drive across.
> People in other kingdoms regularly drive much greater distances than most
> of
> us do to get to Crown Tourneys and Coronations.
>
> People's ability to travel is often constrained by many things -- time,
> distance, money, family, etc. We as a Society are going to have to get
> used
> to the fact that while certainly we want to make all of our events as
> accessible to as many people as possible, that there will be many people
> who
> can only play at a more local/regional level, and that this should not
> make
> them "second class" SCA players. I think we are already battling
> this
> phenomenon as a result of last year's gas price spike and this year's
> struggling economy, but it's a fact of life in our modern world that the
> amount of time and resources people have to devote to a hobby like ours is
> shrinking, and that issue is a larger issue than what needs to be
> considered
> here, a can of worms that is incredibly important to our growth as a
> Society
> but really tangential to the main issue.
>
> But it is relevant to our discussion here in that we need to acknowledge
> that the problem of keeping the Kingdom more united and Kingdom events
> more
> accessible is not going to be solved or rendered unsolveable by the
> decision
> to declare a permanent site for Crown Tourney. It is harder to get to
> Reidsville from Northwest Maryland than it is from Richmond, no question.
> But that hardship is lessened if you know 12 months in advance that you'll
> have to go there if you want to fight in or watch or autocrat crown. And
> as
> someone has already noted, if you want to be King or Queen and live in the
> far reaches of the Kingdom, you'd best be prepared to do some travelling.
>
> (b) the problem of poor attendance at Crown has less to do with the
> location
> of it than with its nature as a "specialty" event. I don't think
> giving
> Crown a permanent location will have as much impact on attendance as
> perhaps
> including a high quality archery shoot or rapier tourney. We also have a
> tradition in Atlantia where Crown lists tend to be small. In other
> Kingdoms, Crown lists can top 60 combatants. There are reasons why people
> are hesitant to enter the Atlantian Crown List, I am sure, but someone
> else
> is probably better qualified than me to discuss that, and again, it's an
> ancillary point at best to the matter at hand.
>
> (d) The issue of activity that could lose a site has less to do with
> whether
> someone is local to the group than it does with whether we are building a
> culture among our event staff of leaving sites better than we found them.
> If we are doing that effectively, this should not be a problem.
>
> (e) every contract, whether long term or for a single event, has risks.
> You
> can always modify contract language to cover those risks.
>
> In other words, I think that while there are some legitimate cons to the
> proposal, which means we have to go forward with this deliberately and
> with
> foresight, none of them rise to the level where the idea of a permanent
> Crown site should be discarded out of hand.
>
> One solution may be to try it out for two years and see how it goes.
> Perhaps a contract that has a two year initial period with an option for
> an
> extension for more years?
>
> With apologies for the length, I remain,
>
> Luce Antony Venus
>
> (Please help fight overlong posts by cropping this missive when you hit
> the
> reply key. Thank you.)
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:12:23 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Mike Brindle <batcok at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [MR] Coronation Morning Court Report - Jason & Gerhild -
> April 11, 2009
> To: AtlantianHeralds <atlantianheralds at yahoogroups.com>, Kingdom of
> Atlantia <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
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> On a fine spring morning, with air clear from the evening's rain,
> Jason?and
> Gerhild held their last court as?King and Queen of Atlantia.? The
> following
> actions were conducted at that time:
>
> 1) Baroness Novella the Fierce was inducted into the Order of the Golden
> Dolphin.
>
> 2) Lady Trephine la?Broderesse was inducted into the Order of the Opal.
>
> 3) Bella Farinelli?was given her Award of Arms.
> ?
> 4) Lord Geoffrey ap Clywd was sent to play his prize for the Order of the
> White
> Scarf.
>
> 5) Lady Yngvildr Galtadottir was created a Baroness of the Court with a
> Grant
> of Arms.
>
> 6) Benjamin of Elvegast was inducted into the Order of the Sea Dragon and
> received an Award of Arms.
>
> 7) Liaden O' Caollaidhe received an Award of Arms.
>
> 8) Lady Anne of Greenwode was inducted?into the Queen's Order of Courtesy.
>
> 9) Lord Galen of Black Diamond was inducted into the Order of the Sea
> Dragon.
>
> 10) Baron William Welwyn received the King's Award of Excellence.
>
> 11) Lord Pagan Grendel, Lord Llyr of Anglesey, Lord Bors Boden, and Lord
> Kieran
> Hunter reveived the King's Award of Excellence.
>
> 12) Baroness Edgia Vamensdattir, Baroness Novella the Fierce, Baroness
> Astrid
> Thorvardsdattir, Duchess Isabel Grimault, Lady Tyra Thorkelsdatter, Baron
> Edward
> Kinslae, Sir Askold Grimr Brotamaorr, Lady Marion le Red, Baroness
> Yngvildr
> Galtadottir, Jessica Kinslae, Nowell of Warwick, Lord Bramr of Atlantia,
> and
> Lady Emma West all received the Award of the Undine from the Queen's hand.
>
> After making those recognitions Their Majesties Jason and Gerhild
> dismissed
> their retinue.
>
> After receiving back the coronet from his Queen did King Jason hand his
> own
> crown to Prince Logan Ebonwulf and end his reign.
>
> Thus did things happen at that time in in that place.
>
> Baron Michael Batcok
> Albatross Herald
> "Always and everywhere I have lived as though each day were my last and
> would never return."
> Petronius, The Satyricon
>
>
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