[MR] Atlantia Digest, Vol 75, Issue 34

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exactly, on all points.

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-----Original Message-----
From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Jen Thies
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 4:12 PM
To: atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [MR] Atlantia Digest, Vol 75, Issue 34

It should also be noted that this site has already been used by the Baronies
of Sacred Stone, Windmasters' Hill and Black Diamond, with cooks from
Charlotte NC, Blacksburg VA, Durham NC - and that's just off the top of my
head.

There is a big difference between autocratting and cooking an event at a new
site far away and at a oft-used site with many resources to assist you from
previous events.

Kiri's concerns over autocratting from a distance are valid, but that does
not mean that those with such limitations are the only resources for running
the event. Please note that no where in the proposal did I see that Dun
Carriag HAD to host a Crown at this site, but that if Dun Carriag wanted to
host a Crown Tournament and didn't have a sufficient site available, they
could use this well established site.

Please note that my interprettation of the proposal is that it is to reserve
the site for use by those who choose for the two Crown Tourneys a year. It
is not intended to force groups to support something that is financially and
logistically unfeasible.

Genevieve d'Aquitaine

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Rozsa <bessenyeirozsa at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Just a suggestion regarding the issue of being able to see the site if you
> live a long way off - if we have Crown at the same site every six months -
> would it not be possible to maybe attend one of the Crowns before the
Crown
> you wish to autocrat and that way you can attend the event, see it
actually
> be used for the event, and tour the site while you are there?  Would that
> help to alleviate some of those concerns?
>
> Rozsa
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine Koogler" <kiridono at gmail.com>
> To: <atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 3:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [MR] Atlantia Digest, Vol 75, Issue 34
>
>
>
>  Re:  Event site proposal...
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:38 PM, <
>> atlantia-request at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>
>>
>>> However, because we knew that we weren't familiar with the site, and
it's
>>> issues, we did make the effort to drive up to the site on a weekend when
>>> several of us were available, to "Scout the site" as it were.  To see
>>> exactly what the kitchen facilities were, the size of the feast hall,
the
>>> cabin layout, et cetera.  We had no problems with the running of the
>>> event,
>>> other than the monsoon that chose to hit us that weekend.
>>>
>>
>>
>> That's what is needed...but having to drive 8 - 10 hours to get to the
>> site
>> to take a look at it is very different that 4 hours.  Four hours...you
can
>> drive there, look at the site, then return home all in the same day.   A
>> long day, but still....  But an 8 hour trip will take an entire weekend
>> including an overnight.  For a lot of people, this just isn't possible.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> As to your point of not being able to get the time off, I know of very
>>> few
>>> managers in the various fields I have been in over my career that who
>>> would
>>> turn you down if you said, "Hey Boss, there is a regional event for my
>>> hobby
>>> that I am lead organizer of in Six months, I would like to know what I
>>> need
>>> do to get the time off so I can do it."
>>>
>>
>>
>> I don't mean to be "smart" here, but you obviously don't work for any
>> Federal contractors!  I know that many bosses in our area don't think
>> twice
>> about turning you down.  Heck, I got turned down by my boss at one place
>> when I wanted to go to see my step-mother for what was my last chance to
>> see
>> her alive!!  I even tried to get leave without pay and was refused.  So
>> yes,
>> depending on your area, it will happen.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know there are useless bosses out there, there always are somewhere.
>>>  BUT, I would also think that especially in my case, I KNEW 10 months in
>>> advance that I was running the event, and was going to need the Thursday
>>> prior off so that I could roll out first thing Friday morning, so made
>>> the
>>> arrangements to do what I needed in plenty of time.
>>>
>>
>>
>> See above.....you are very lucky.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> So I would politely disagree that Remote hosts for events rarely work.
I
>>> have proven it can, IF the person running the event TRULY WANTS to make
>>> it
>>> work....
>>>
>>
>>
>> Again, I suspect it depends on the situations.  I suspect that this one
>> will
>> provide a number of major challenges for folks up here around DC...
>>
>> Kiri
>>
>
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