[MR] and now the business stuff starts

Mon Apr 13 07:07:49 PDT 2009

Your Majesty,

With all due respect, I understand the problem.  As seneschal of a group that has had two bids declined because of distance issues, I am fully aware of the paucity of suitable sites.

I also would suggest that a $500 penalty for hosting Crown elsewhere is not a trivial sum.  When combined with the Kingdom's cut of 50 percent of the profits, that makes hosting Crown locally much less financially feasible.

I get that this is an attempt to find a solution to a difficult problem.  I just think that this solution isn't the optimal one.  And I readily confess I don't have a better suggestion.

YIS,

Eadric the Potter

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-----Original Message-----
From: Esa Kirkepatrike <mered95 at hotmail.com>

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:53:40 
To: <rvanrens at hotmail.com>; <logan at ebonwoulfe.com>; <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
Subject: RE: [MR] and now the business stuff starts

Magister Eadric,

 As was previously stated, groups that plan ahead and submit a well formulated bid will be fully considered and if selected, will have to incorporate the $500 penalty for canceling BJP only if the site can not be rented out. There is no way to select a site that makes everyone happy all of the time. However, Atlantia has a growing issue with bid problems and as other kindgdoms have already done, we have to start investigating the alternatives. 

 HRM Esa

> From: rvanrens at hotmail.com
> To: logan at ebonwoulfe.com; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:48:35 +0000
> Subject: Re: [MR] and now the business stuff starts
> 
> Well, I guess this precludes the Barony of Highland Foorde from hosting Crown for the forseeable future. Royal decrees aside, there is no way I (as seneschal) am going to be able to convince enough people from the Barony to drive 7 to 10 hours to staff an event.
> 
> The only people this "conveniences" are the groups in the central part of the Kingdom. Now, instead of a reasonable expection that once in a while, Crown will be a reasonable trip away, I will always have a full day's drive to attend.
> 
> Putting on my merchant's hat for a moment, let me point out that it's not cost effective for me to drive 8 hours, get a new tax license in a state known for exceptionally Byzantine tax laws, and expect to show a reasonable return for time and trouble. As such, I very much doubt that I will be attending as a merchant.
> 
> Because merchanting is my actual real-life job, I doubt that I can justify regular attendance in a non-merchanting capacity. Of course, most East Kingdom events are actually closer to me than Betsy Jeff-Penn.
> 
> I don't expect the Kingdom to go out of its way to accomodate those of us on the northern marches, but this smacks to me of the Kingdom instituting a policy that discommodes those of us out here in the howling wilderness.
> 
> As a Peer of the Realm, it is my duty to advise Your Majesties. Sometimes, that advice is that I think you are making a mistake. In this case, I think that you are doing just that. I understand the nature of the basic problem, I just feel this is the wrong solution.
> 
> Yours In Service,
> 
> Magister Eadric the Potter
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: logan <logan at ebonwoulfe.com>
> 
> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:05:37 
> To: <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> Subject: [MR] and now the business stuff starts
> 
> 
> folks, as many of you are aware ive been involved in dealing with the many
> issues we have getting bids in for sites in which to hold kingdom events.
> the problems are the same every time and most all of them are site related
> (location, booking, etc).  most kingdoms utilize permanent sites for certain
> events.  this solves many of the repeating problems such as being able to
> book an event in such a short amount of time.  to that end her majesty and i
> are considering a solution to this problem and would like to receive council
> from you.
> 
>  
> 
> i have enjoyed a growing rapport with the director at the site we used this
> weekend for our coronation (he is an awesome guy so its really not something
> difficult to do).  our thoughts are to implement a contract with the site
> (betsy jeff-penn) for a few years to host atlantias crown tourneys.  this
> does a few things and the highlights are:
> 
>  
> 
> centrally located site (this is as close to the center of the kingdom as you
> can get)
> 
> excellent site that is very sca friendly (very nice cabins, awesome kitchen,
> easy accessibility to all parts of the site, perfect field, wet site, pet
> friendly, modern, easy road access from the interstate)
> 
> affordable (and even more so with a long term contract)
> 
>  
> 
> ive been thinking about this for a long time personally and i spoke with the
> director about it some months ago and he is very willing to discuss the
> particulars with me including a reduction in costs.  the region is weather
> friendly for both fall and spring crown (no ice storms, no hurricanes). 
> 
>  
> 
> my thought is to create a simple hosting sequence that revolves around the
> kingdom for each barony.  this allows every group a chance to play host and
> it also gives a lot of notice for that group to get a staff together.  if,
> say, ponte alto knows they have fall crown in 2011 they can fill all of the
> staff positions they need to in plenty of time.  this also allows them to
> find someone from outside their borders to fill in when needed.  its is
> crown so there really isnt a lot of staff positions to fill anyway.  now if
> someone from deep in sc or md wins crown and wants to use a different site
> we still have options.  first, the director of the site said that there
> probably wouldnt be a penalty if they could rent the site out on the weekend
> we had reserved when i asked him about that.  given nearly 5 months to find
> a replacement we stand a good chance that this would happen.  if not its
> still a simple fix to budget the $500 (or so) into the bid for a replacement
> site.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> so, take some time considering this and please let us know what you think.
> pros and cons.  you can send them directly to us off list or discuss your
> ideas here.
> 
>  
> 
> regards
> 
> logan
> 
>  
> 
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