[MR] cloven fruit
M'lady Foxy
angellfoxx at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 8 19:47:46 PDT 2009
I wonder if you can clove rattan weapons..hmmm ... my group taught a sca 101 for newcomers where among other things cloved fruit was explained.
--- On Wed, 4/8/09, Liz Herman <imcozit at verizon.net> wrote:
From: Liz Herman <imcozit at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [MR] cloven fruit
To: atlantia at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 8:39 PM
There *is* one issue with the cloven fruit that I haven't seen mentioned here yet. Sometime in my first year of playing with the SCA (1996/7), I came across someone who had a cloven fruit and was using it to flirt. Problem was... I had *no* clue what the person was talking about when offered... puzzled face and comment occurred on my part. The man who held the fruit obviously assumed not only that I knew what the fruit was and how it was to be used, but that anyone offered it should partake and participate.
Want to guess what I thought of him, and any others who might think the same way? If it had been my first event, and I hadn't known anyone in the SCA yet, it probably would have gone a *long* way towards scaring me off - especially combined with the fact that the only members I'd met in high school and college were among those stereotypical heavy fighter-types who have been known to do such things as wear their mail under their business suit... or never wash (or appear and smell as if they never did). Heck, it had taken an A&S demo out in An Tir the previous year to get me to at least look at my local barony back here.
I've no issue with the idea of cloven fruit being used in a "game" of courtly love, among people who know each other, and know what it symbolizes and how the game is to be played. But, as an icebreaker when you haven't the foggiest if the other has a clue... let's just say I'm glad that I haven't the foggiest who the person who approached me at that event was (so I don't hold it against him)... other than knowing it wasn't someone among the very active in my barony at the time. And I'm quite glad that I got to know people in my barony a bit before those first few events.
-Elisabeth
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