[MR] How Cloven Fruit is Supposed to be done.

[logan]

so its an art form now?  really?  just because some people feel its ok to
"flirt", whatever that means, and then to expect them to "understand the
context in which it is offered" and then assume that a person should simply
consider the act "a light hearted flirt" and respond to it by accepting a
person putting their mouth on them (be it hand or mouth) is ok?  really, are
you kidding me?  i promise you that anyone that expects any woman associated
with me in any regard to simply except that some stranger will put his/her
mouth on them and that they should simply accept it as "an art form" will be
very disappointed to meet me.  painfully disappointed.  if someone is
interested in this "art form" of mouthing someone they should try talking to
the person, engaging them in conversation, exchanging a number, and then
going out on a date of five before spewing some bs about expecting the
recipient to simply "understand" that its a perfectly ok way to "flirt" and
that they should just accept it as harmless and an "art form".  wow......  i
must be a prude or something but i find the notion and the practice
distasteful and im glad its gone.


logan





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-----Original Message-----
From: atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:atlantia-bounces at seahorse.atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of RIKKER
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 11:38 PM
To: Atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
Subject: [MR] How Cloven Fruit is Supposed to be done.

     Let's see here;  Cloven fruit is an art form.  It was and is a way of
flirting and like all ways of flirting there are those who take pride in the
stylish and skillful execution of Courtly Graces and those who have the
manners of a wounded elephant in a china shop. 
   Cloven fruit is much the same as Kissing of the hand.  It is perfectly
acceptable to politely refuse the offer, either to give or recieve.  With
cloven fruit understanding the context in which it is offered and the venue
in which it is passed around will do much to avoid embarassment.  If the
venue is a feast as was the most common place to see Cloven Fruit,  It
should be considered a light hearted flirt and responded to with a kiss on
the hand or a peck on the cheek(very risque in period).  If the person takes
you aside at a late evening event and offers it to you in private,  It is
always good manners to ask what limitations the offering person has on the
response.  Though this is not historically accurate, some people started to
practice the "If you take the last clove you agree to go home with me"
scenario.  They also happened to start pulling the clove bud with their
teeth(someone say it in a movie).  You are supposed to pull the clove
 with your fingers.  whether you eat the bud is up to you.  That's when some
became dis-illusioned with being arround when the Fruit was being passed.  I
personally like the practice of
Fruit as a light hearted flirt.  I try to respond to an offer from a Lady
with as much class and style as I can muster.  I always inquire as to the
Lady's expected response and so my best to stay well within her range of
comfort.  Just as in hand kissing,  You never leave a DNA sample the dryer
and lighter the kiss the better.  Remember "Grace and Style will out!".
   I would personally love to see the courtly graces practiced more often by
us all.  It makes what we are here to experience  richer andmore fulfillng.
   
   OK off the soapbox now.  Ending my ramble.
 


When all is said and done,the less said and the more done the better! 

Rikker
per pale counter ermine and ermine a Lion sejant efronte bearing a sheath of
arrows a bag of coin a chief Or with three thistles proper.


When all is said and done,the less said and the more done the better! 

Rikker
per pale counter ermine and ermine a Lion sejant efronte bearing a sheath of
arrows a bag of coin a chief Or with three thistles proper.


      
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