[MR] please advise re: on-line abuse

[logan]

they are also involved in the sca via calontir.  perhaps they have a bug in
an uncomfortable place because of some laurels in calontir or in the sca in
general.  who knows.  either way i wouldnt sweat it.

regards
logan

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his site doesnt include your name or anything else (now).  so maybe its
already been handled.

regards
logan

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There has been a "Virtual Museum of Medieval Archaeology" on-line with  
pictures from many museums posted by Michael Fuller and Neathery Fuller.
In going 
through their wonderful pictures, I discovered two captions that were  
incorrect.  Knowing how important correct historical information is for  
researchers, reenactors, etc., I wrote to Mr. Fuller and pointed the two
discrepancies 
out.
 
One was that the pottery from a Crusader castle in the Middle East  was made

by Arabic/local artisans rather than "possibly Crusader made" (or  words to 
that effect).
 
The second was that a piece of "Egyptian knitting" was actually  nalbinding.
 
I was polite; I was factual.  
 
In response to the first, Mr. Fuller wrote back, "And which Crusader sites  
and castles have you personally excavated and analyzed?"
 
My response was, "Goodness, I am surprised at your questions.  I did  not 
mean to offend, simply to point out that the crusaders didn't actually make
that 
pottery.  Certainly, it was found in their sites and castles as they  used
it 
extensively.  Thank you again for your wonderful photos.  They  are a 
valuable asset on-line."
 
In response to the second, Mr. Fuller responded, "I have removed all of my  
web pages linked to the Fuller Virtual Museum and noted that SCAdians should

address all their questions to you."
 
Needless to say, I have been baffled by these responses.  And you can  
imagine my anger upon going to the web page -- 
_http://users.stlcc.edu/mfuller/sca/sca.html_
(http://users.stlcc.edu/mfuller/sca/sca.html)   -- and reading the 
following.
"Michael Fuller and Neathery Fuller are professional archaeologists/college

professors with 30 years experience in Medieval Archaeology in the Middle
East 
 and Europe.  Continued complaints about inaccuracies in the museum captions

for the artifacts have led me to remove these pages.  I bow to the
expertise 
of Nancy Spies, Arelate Studio _www.weavershand.com/ArelateStudio.html_ 
(http://www.weavershand.com/ArelateStudio.html)    Ingvild Josefsdatter, OL
Kingdom 
of Atlantia."
 
I have several questions that I please need answered.
 
1.  Why is Mr. Fuller reacting like this and why is he so angry at  having a

couple minor caption problems pointed out?  Is he not a scholar  who values 
correct information for research?  This is really bothering  me.
 
2.  How would you suggest I go about getting that nasty message and my  
personal information removed from his web page?  I would prefer to avoid
legal 
measures but will go that route if need be.  
 
3.  It is grossly unfair to everyone that he, well, childishly removed  all 
the pictures and links from the web page.  How can this resource be
returned 
to all of you?
 
I am flummoxed by this whole thing.  Please respond privately to me if  you 
have any insights and suggestions.  Thank you.
 
Nancy Spies
Ingvild Josefsdatter, OL
Atlantia
 
 
 
 
 
 



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