[MR] Non-paid reservations ... Re: Paying by Check

David Chessler chessler at usa.net
Tue Oct 28 16:44:06 PDT 2008


I was once a director of an organization that had such a problem. Promulgating
such information, even to our own agents (ticket sellers) appeared to violate
state laws on privacy. Take legal advice before adopting such a policy.


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YIS

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Received: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:02:41 PM EDT
From: Michael Beedy <sebastien_de_valmont2 at yahoo.com>
To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [MR] Non-paid reservations ... Re:  Paying by Check

> As a Baronial Exchequer for nearly two years, I can say that fortunately
there have only been 3 bad checks in the 2 years.  Unfortunately, two of them
are still outstanding from Crown Tourney in May!  
>  
> Perhaps the solution to this problem might be as simple as a "black list"
for bad checks, until they are paid.  A list of those individuals with
outstanding NSF checks throughout the kingdom can be created and provided to
autocrats/reservationists so they know who not to accept a check from until
the prior obligation has been paid.  
>  
> This might seem harsh but I imagine it would be effective.  I certainly dont
want to embarrass anyone, but when efforts have been made to collect the
returned check with no avail, and then you see that person at an event five
months later, it kinda makes you wonder.
>  
> Just a thought.
> YIS
> Lord Sebastien de Vymont
> Baronial Exchequer
> Barony of Nottinghill Coill
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> --- On Tue, 10/28/08, scribe0002 at aol.com <scribe0002 at aol.com> wrote:
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> From: scribe0002 at aol.com <scribe0002 at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [MR] Non-paid reservations ... Re: Paying by Check
> To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 10:59 AM
> 
>  Well, this is an interesting suggestion . . . it doesn't address the issue
> of bounced checks but it certainly addresses another of my concerns as a
> sometime event steward . . . how many portalets do I need to rent?
> 
> Five days before War of the Wings we had just over 400 reservations. We
ended
> up with 840 folks. Crown Tourney right now has very few pre-regs . . . are
> people boycotting the event or are you all just planning to show up that
> morning? It does make it very difficult to plan facilities and activities
for
> the event.
> 
> I'll make you a deal, Siegfried, for the next event I organize I'll
> create a process for people to do just what you suggest . . . send me an
e-mail
> stating your intent to attend the event. After the event I'll compare the
> List of Intention with the Gate Sheets and we'll have some numbers with
> which to evaluate your suggestion.
> 
> If it gives a reliable 80 percent attendance, that is a tool that I know I
> could use when planning. 
> 
> Then we can also evaluate the Bad Siegfried/Good Siegfried appellation . .
.
> Sound good?
> 
> ~gise
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Siegfried <siegfried at crossbows.biz>
> To: vivianvaz at lairhaven.com
> Cc: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> Sent: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:45 am
> Subject: [MR] Non-paid reservations ... Re:  Paying by Check
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> > However, I know it is very helpful to event planners, to get the
> > reservation and payment in advance of the event and I don't want to
> make
> > their lives harder.
> 
> A topic that comes up every now and then ... is the topic of 'non-paid'
> reservations.
> 
> Though it doesn't get anywhere.
> 
> But basically, we are currently in an era, where 'Unless you live in
> Ansterroa', due to BoD decisions, we cannot do any payment methods other
> than check/cash/MO ... and in general nowadays, checks are 'annoying'
> when everything is being handled electronically, automatic deposit,
> automatic withdrawal, etc.
> 
> So many people (myself often included *bad Siegfried*) don't end up
> getting around to pre-registering.
> 
> Planners then don't know how many people to expect.
> 
> Yet, many of those people (like myself *bad Siegfried*)  Do have an idea
> of what events they are going to attend.
> 
> So the idea has been proposed, that in some cases, to allow (and
> encourage) electronic "I'll be there" statements.   So that
> people who
> for 'whatever reason' aren't going to pre-reg, can at least have a
> semi-official way of sticking themselves into the headcount.
> 
> Yup, maybe only 80% of those will really show up.   But that's ok, it's
> still knowing whether you should expect 2400-3000, or 24-30
> 
> Anyway, I'll bring it up again.
> 
> OBVIOUSLY this would not be a way to 'stick yourself on the feast
> list',
> or any other 'limited' registration type thing.  In those cases.  Only
> a
> paid reservation should count.
> 
> But just as a way for the event planners to get a rough headcount to
> expect.   Also, perhaps, as a benefit to their majesties, who I know
> often use pre-reg data to see who will be in attendance at an event for
> award/court purposes.
> 
> A reservationist could also save a little time, if they made themselves
> a list of "email pre-reg", which had peoples mundane * sca names ...
> no
> writing it down required.
> 
> Siegfried
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