[MR] Do These Things Actually Work?

[Christopher J]

I apologize. I forgot to mention the bucket of painter's dessicant to combat the the dampness. The curtains shouldn't end up soaked using that. Tho, I can't personally vouch for that, dessicant is something I'm looking forward to experimenting with, as I've heard it's very effective. I also failed to mention that the top of the canopy would be open or covered with a thin stuff like mosquito netting. Actually, I didn't even remember the mosquitos, I was just thinking of having it open. That way your body heat and the ground heat has somewhere to go. Now the heavy side curtains are only for using regular ice. This is (in  theory anyway) to make the dessicant more effective at keeping you from being damp.
 
It's also been brought my attention that there is concern about suffocating due to the CO2. I'm pretty sure that with the body heat rising up, and the open space at the bottom of the curtains, the CO2 would just fall to the sides and out, allowing sufficient oxygen levels. I'd use thinner curtains as well to keep the air flow, as the dry ice is not damp air, the cool air should not be overly damp, and the dessicant shouldnt be necessary (again, in theory. it may cause dew, and the dessicant still be necessary). Afterall, the heavy curtains were to give the dessican't a smaller area to keep dry.
 
Another idea about the CO2 is to use it as a chiller unit. Take a duct or pipe. Put a big hopper-ish piece on top. Let the cold air from the dry ice down thru the pipe, whose exit opening is lower and vented a reassuring distance away from the bed. Have the fan blow across the pipe. If you can put like radiator fins on it, or something it should work great, just like regular a/c. That may get damp, tho. Not sure. I know of several other radiating methods (one of which made the most effective heating stove I've ever seen), and I'm sure for every one I can think of you guys have about 5 others.
 
My fault for assuming the fridge made noise. Every other propane powered things I've had contact with were signifigantly loud. That may be the easiest solution after all.
 
Thanks,
Christopher



Message: 11
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:41:41 -0400
From: Davitt il Bigollo da Pisa <chessler at usa.net>
Subject: Re: [MR] Atlantia Digest, Vol 65, Issue 39 (Do These Things
	Actually Work)
To: Christopher J
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At 05:11 PM 6/12/2008, Christopher J wrote:

>
>   It might work if you do a conopy bed with 
> heavy curtains. Mount it above the bed on a 
> shelf behid the headboard. You can always find 
> DC powered fans, and marine batteries. If you 
> have any electrical ability (or a friend who 
> does) you can hook up batteries ina sequence of 
> 3's. I can't give you any idea how, but when i 
> drove truck, my truck's fridge could run for 2 
> or 3 days with the engine off. RV's and camper 
> trailers have similar setups. The solar idea is 
> a great one. Could alos do a little dynamo on a 
> battery charged with a windmill if you're really ambitious.

Canopy bed with heavy curtains, soaked in water, 
will cool you but suffocate you. I'm not aware of 
anyone who has done this in hot climates. Usually 
people try to use the thinnest bobbinette 
possible that will keep out the insects and let 
in the air (breeze). (Spray the bobbinette with 
insecticide--Permethrin; Permanone--and you will keep out all mosquitoes.

>
>   They ain't cheap ideas, to be sure. I'm  more 
> concerned with finding a silent a/c for Pennsic 
> and other events than I am a cheap solution too 
> loud to be used. I mean, I can get a propane 
> fridge, and rig it over my bed so cold air 
> falls on me, but if a bunch of unhappy campers 
> stomp my camp flat to shut it up, I kinda defeated the purpose, yes?

Gas refrigerators are generally silent. They have 
no moving parts. Whether you would want to do 
this depends on how much propane you can haul around.

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