[MR] Principalty or not to Principality

[richardfitzgilbert at jcsussman.org]

It is by long tradition in the SCA that Barons and Baronesses are the ones
who serve as proxies for the Crowns except in certain very rare
circumstances usually having to do with coronations.  Barons and Baronesses
are the ones who regularly hold court and have actual geographic
responsibilities unlike those of County and Ducal rank.  They are the ones
who are usually called upon to give awards (usually AoAs) when the Crowns
believe they will not cross paths with the intended recipient.

Yours in Service to Atlantia,
Duke Richard Fitzgilbert

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From: Rorik Fredericsson <baron.rorik at gmail.com>
Sent: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 2:31 pm
Subject: Re: [MR] Principalty or not to Principality

>The Barons and Baronesses are the direct agents of the Crown and as
>Baron Storvik I have given a Kingdom level award to a deserving
>recipient when no arrangement was found to get both Crown and
>recipient together.

>There is no need to bother Count and Dukes with this issue.

My appologies your Excellecy, but again I am confused, if I 
mis-interpret the meaning of your words, please correct me.

Your choice of words, seem to me, to indicate:
A: The Crown may only delegate such authority in the event that they 
cannot be there in person
B: Dukes and Counts (or anyone other than one of landed or officer 
status) have no right to be issuing/delivering awards from the Crown.

I feel this is in incorrect because all awards (with the exception of 
Knighthood which has the stipulation of "Only a knight can bestow 
knighthood") are governed by the will and discression of the Crown... 
this includes who presents them

See Corpora:
VI Royalty, D:2
"Royalty may delegate to any subject the execution of any legitimate 
royal power for a specific
instance, such as the transmission of an award to an individual named 
and selected by them, subject to the
laws and customs of the realm."

and

VI Royalty, E:3
"Royalty may delegate: (1) the decision-making powers on legislation, 
distribution of
armigerous awards and orders, or banishment, or (2) signature authority 
for warrants and rosters to territorial
princes and princesses within their Kingdom. Royalty may not delegate 
these powers or authorities to anyone
else."

D:2 Means that the Crown, or any specified agent of the Crown, may 
transmit the will of the Crown for the contitions specified. D:3 
Specifically prevents the power to decide to grant AOA or higher levels 
of awards, or signature authorities to anyone other than a Principality 
Coronet. - This speaks of the power to decide, not of delivery.

The Crown is the fount of all honors within the Kingdom, it is by their 
judgement and decree alone how their honors are bestowed.

-Takeda

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