[MR] Event Bids and locations

Thu Jun 5 14:59:14 PDT 2008

Do not forget Atlantia's Kingdom Archery, to be held in Bright Hills
on the same date as Assessment.   I guess things get interesting when
Kingdom-level events "conflict" with Crown progress events. :-)  Their
Majesties and Highnesses must have heart-breaking choices to make, at
times.

I must admit that don't travel south very often.  The last time was
for this year's  Kingdom A&S.  Distance is definitely the main
concern.  Having to travel more than 3 to 4 hours one way pretty much
makes the day-trip option impractical (and gas expensive to enjoy a
few hours at an event).

Lord Alexandre,
Barony of Stierbach (which hosted Atlantia 12th Night in 2004)

P.S. I'm very much looking forward to Highland River Melee.

On 6/5/08, Glynis Gwynedd <ylandra at gmail.com> wrote:
> Mistress Kiri,
>
> Your words are well spoken, and my husband reminds me of just that
> event.  My apologies for having forgotten it, and thank you for your
> reminder as well.
>
> You mention though, about the fear that the Northern part of the
> Kingdom would forget about the Southern part of the kingdom.  Isn't
> that exactly what is happening here? A Northern group has stepped
> forward with a viable option for 12th night, no other bids were
> presented, and yet the bid was rejected and the deadline extended.
>
> It is no secret that the fighters in the southern part of our fair
> Kingdom are fierce fighters.  Many of our Kings have come from the
> south, at least since I have been able to play locally in the last 4
> years (prior to which I was a nomad due to mundane reasons despite
> maintaining a dwelling in Atlantia).  When we have a northern King or
> Queen, we see the Royalty in the North.  When we have a Southern King,
> we don't see them as often.  The plain simple fact of the matter is
> that being King (and Queen) is expensive, and having to travel to the
> far ends of the Kingdom makes that cost worse.  I have seen a few
> cases in the past few years where a Southern King chose a Northern
> Consort - and that seemed to work quite well.   They were able to
> share responsibility and split up for events, allowing TWO events on
> the same weekend to see Royalty.
>
> My point is not that Southern Kings and Queens don't come North,
> though.  My point is that with the cost of everything rising so
> quickly it makes sense to at least talk about this.  I am sure that a
> large can of worms has been opened, but it is something that has been
> muttered about in at least 4 northern groups that I know of.  Nobody
> wanted to be the person to step forward and say "Hey, can we talk
> about this?".  If the Kingdom were only a 4 hour drive across, instead
> of 11 hours, people would be more likely to go to events, and by
> having a second set of Royalty for the North, the Royals would not
> have to spend quite so much money and time in travel.
>
> Case in point - Highland River Melees is one of the largest non
> Kingdom Level events in Atlantia.  The following weekend is
> Assessments in Black Diamond.  The appearance is that their Majesties
> were forced to choose between the events because it is so far to come
> up north for them, and since Assessments really sort of NEEDS the King
> in order to assess the army, the choice seems obvious.  In their
> shoes, I would probably have made the same choice.  But if the kingdom
> were smaller, it would not be as much of an issue, in my opinion.
>
> At any rate, that's pretty much what I have to say on the topic.  I am
> sure our boxes are about to inundated with discussion of this, since
> the can was already opened.  Let's all try to be civil about it.
>
> And please note - NONE of my commentary is meant to be accusatory or
> finger pointing or any such thing.  It is meant as observation and how
> I, and I alone, perceive the situation.
>
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Elaine Koogler <kiridono at gmail.com> wrote:
> > My Lady,
> > I hate to disagree with you, but many of us can remember a Twelfth Night in
> > Black Diamond, just off of Interstate 81, that turned into 13th, 14th and
> > 15th Nights because the Interstate itself was closed!  I don't know about
> > others, but I came close to losing my job because I couldn't get out of
> > Blacksburg until Wednesday of the week after the event...and even then
> > almost didn't make it home as we got caught in yet another storm.  But to be
> > honest, I'm not certain it was a weather problem...Black Diamond, Storvik,
> > Lochmere and Dun Carraig have all hosted this event and we are also subject
> > to snow events...even Richmond and Raleigh aren't completely out of danger!
> > I think it really does have to do with Highland Foorde being so very far
> > north...even for some of us in the northern region, it is as much as 4 or 5
> > hours away...unfortunately.
> >
> > I was part of the last effort to create a northern principality, but it was
> > unsuccessful for a number of reasons, at least part of which were a fear
> > that we wanted to become a Kingdom...and the fear of many in the southern
> > part of the Kingdom that we would ignore the rest of the Kingdom.  I do
> > think that, given the cost of travel and the situation with the economy, it
> > may be something we want to consider again.
> >
> > Kiri
> >
> >>
> >> Message: 7
> >> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:14:17 -0400
> >> From: "Glynis Gwynedd" <ylandra at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [MR] Event Bids and Driving Distances
> >> To: "Signora Sveva Lucciola" <ladysveva at yahoo.com>
> >> Cc: Lady Margaret <ladysayher at gmail.com>, atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
> >> Message-ID:
> >>        <1f6c05440806051314p1261ac50j94f8e9c9a5b958c0 at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >>
> >> In actuality, my lady Sveva, the chances of the roads being blocked
> >> due to snow in this area are extremely remote.  The complex in
> >> question is immediately off of a major 4 lane road, which is only a
> >> few miles off of interstate 70.  It is all highway miles the entire
> >> way there on this end of the trip.  I am fairly certain that the
> >> possibility of roads being blocked is not too big of a concern here.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Signora Sveva Lucciola
> >> <ladysveva at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > I am lucky to live more toward the Southern middle of the Kingdom, but
> >> > I still feel your pain and hope that your group does get to do a
> >> > Kingdom event at some point soon.
> >> >
> >> > I do not know what factors went into the event bid selection process,
> >> > but I could see how in addition to the driving distance, the higher
> >> > chance of roads being blocked due to snow at 12th Night time might have
> >> > also been a concern with your location.
> >> >
> >> > As for making things more affordable to the average SCA person, there
> >> > are some practices that seem to be less and less utilized. Namely
> >> > carpooling and crash space. Both of these not only help stretch your
> >> > SCA $, but they help to foster new acquaintances and friendships within
> >> > the Society!
> >> >
> >> > Good luck with your upcoming Highland River Melees!
> >> >
> >> > Sveva
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> ~Lady Glynis Gwynedd
> >> Barony of Highland Foorde
> >> "Have you hugged a harp today?"
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 8
> >> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:46:14 -0400
> >> From: "Glynis Gwynedd" <ylandra at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: [MR] Pictures of Adam of Erin
> >> To: "Merry Rose" <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> >> Message-ID:
> >>        <1f6c05440806051346k51ff689av7b03692c72793c0b at mail.gmail.com>
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> >>
> >> For those who aren't sure who Adam is... the pictures in the link
> >> below say it all.  Adam stood guard at my wedding, fully prepared to
> >> stave off the trouble that might have started.  He was there when I
> >> needed someone to talk to about some difficult things.  He promoted
> >> our Barony, started a group of people rolling on getting a canton
> >> started, he was one of the founding members of Highland Foorde and
> >> helped get Spiaggia Levantia started too.  He fought, he marshalled,
> >> he cooked, he served.  And he always did it with a smile.  I will
> >> surely miss him.
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: James Debes <lordshamus69 at yahoo.com>
> >> Date: Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:45 AM
> >> Subject: [Bright Hills] Pictures of Adam of Erin
> >> To: brighthills at yahoogroups.com
> >>
> >>
> >> Here some photos I had taken of Adam at various events dating from
> >> 2001-2008.
> >>
> >>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/lordseamus/sets/72157605439649809/detail/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> >> --
> >> ~Lady Glynis Gwynedd
> >> Barony of Highland Foorde
> >> "Have you hugged a harp today?"
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