[MR] Event Bids and Driving Distances
logan
logan at ebonwoulfe.com
Thu Jun 5 20:40:21 PDT 2008
also from my unique position at that time there really wasn't much support
from the north and little to no support from the kingdom as a whole.
atlantia is a small kingdom geographically. granted much of the kingdom is
economically depressed when compared to the rest of the country. point
being that the poorest portions of atlantia being in the south (and i live
here) there was almost no support for the idea.
honestly though, im really not interested in getting into this debate again.
there are those that pounce on the opportunity to debate my opinions but it
almost always goes the way of emotional banter and not the way of true
debate when my name is attached. guess its that whole new yorker part of me
that speaks without sugarcoating that could be blamed. but a three state
kingdom in the sca? really? why not just make all the sca baronies
kingdoms.... i mean if it really is such a great idea.
kingdom events should be centrally located in my opinion. however, we are
so bogged down in bid committees, and profit bs, and financial policies, et
al that bids are way too involved and way too complicated. and the lead
time is insane. but those that wish to travel will and those that don't,
wont. that's what it boils down to. most of my crowns have been won in
maryland. why? because i wanted to fight and because those groups are the
ones that put in the best bids. so, again, its all about what the
individual wants to do.
if this thing gets started again im sure i will not be able to ignore it and
im sure the same questions will come up, and im sure we will get little done
because of emotions. but really? three states, why? more awards? we have
too many now. want to see the king and queen (well, other than for awards),
travel. don't want to travel? ok, don't. no problems.
regards
logan
"I never did give them hell. I just told the truth, and they thought it was
hell."
Harry S Truman
"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his
vengeance need not be feared"
Niccolo Machiavelli
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From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org
[mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Siegfried
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:52 PM
To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [MR] Event Bids and Driving Distances
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Your Grace, you certainly have much more insight, given your unique
position at that time.
However, I will actually second Gorm's statements, from what the
'Northern Populace' saw. Everyone (at least, a serious majority) of the
folks that I talked to back then in the North (Highland Foorde, Roxbury,
Lochmere, Bright Hills, at the very least), where highly for the
Principality idea, and were very excited by it.
There were special "Pep rallies" for it, we had people visiting local
Baronial Meetings to chat about it, etc.
And it went so far, as I'm sure you remember, to have had a polling done
to pick the name, heraldry, and much more.
Then, to the general populace's POV. It suddenly, and abruptly died off.
And the only concrete public statements that were made, were that
various border groups were in disagreement as to where the line should
be drawn, and therefore who was in, or out, of the Principality.
In any case ... I will stand up and say:
Yes, I do think that discussions on this concept should start up again.
~ As others have said, over the last 3 years or so, I have heard MUCH
mumbling about how having a Northern Principality would certainly help
with many issues (travel for people, travel for royalty, required events
(Unevent), etc)
Yet noone has stood up and said "Let's seriously chat about this again"
BTW, the discussions definitely took a bigger swing after the Unevent in
South Carolina, when many Northern Groups complained that it had lost
it's 'central location'. Yes, including Highland Foorde, and yes,
including myself.
Interestingly enough. We were told that if Highland Foorde wanted to
see Kingdom Events be a short drive to us, that we should complain, but
simply submit event bids ourselves.
~From that day, we started working hard to get setup to do just that.
And we submitted the bid. To be told that it's being denied because
it's too far North.
:(
Siegfried
logan wrote:
| as one of the crowns during that time who was involved in the discussions
| there was a lot more than some simple dispute over zip codes and identity.
| it wasn't beneficial in many ways and those issues were hardly the meat of
| it.
|
| regards
| logan
|
| "I never did give them hell. I just told the truth, and they thought
it was
| hell."
| Harry S Truman
|
| "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his
| vengeance need not be feared"
| Niccolo Machiavelli
|
| www.ebonwoulfe.com
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org
| [mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Alan MacNeill
| Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 1:35 PM
| To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
| Subject: Re: [MR] Event Bids and Driving Distances
|
| Yes.
|
| Most recently about 10 years ago. It fell apart over questions of
| just where the boundries should be and regional identity. At the
| time, folks said "You should look at this again in 10 years or so and
| see how things have developed".
|
|
| On 6/5/08, Joshua Thomas <foreachdev at gmail.com> wrote:
|> Hasn't the DC and Maryland groups pushed for a principality several times
|> now?
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