[MR] New comers being nekkid -- the actual issue

Tue Jan 22 07:02:46 PST 2008

Ursula,

I understood what you were getting at, which is why I
was making light with jokes.

But the other reply that was mentioned is what took me
back and changed the subject.

I agree with you 100% and support what you've posted.

-Shae

--- thatursula at aol.com wrote:

> No one is talking about turning newcomers away at an
> event because they 
> didn't have garb.  I've never heard of that
> happening in Atlantia or 
> anywhere else.  (That doesn't mean it's never
> happened, but I be 
> surprised if it has.)
> 
> What we're asking is that people be aware that
> they're expected to wear 
> garb during the event if humanly possible and take
> the time to prepare 
> ahead of time instead of presenting us with the
> problem of garbing 
> someone with no notice on the day of the event.
> 
> Last year we actually had __guests of SCAdians__
> show up without garb.  
> We ask that if you're bringing someone in, that you
> make them aware of 
> our basic customs and at least point them in the
> direction of someone 
> who can help them out with garb.  Or make the Event
> Steward or 
> Chatelaine aware that they'll be coming so that we
> can be ready with 
> something presentable and comfortable for them to
> wear so that their 
> first event can be special.
> 
> Many thanks to all who help in this endeavour!
> 
> Sincerely,
> Ursula von Bremen
> Seneschal, Windmasters' Hill
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephanie Shelton <ldy_sydney at yahoo.com>
> To: Carolyn Cox <thefarseeing at bellsouth.net>
> Cc: Merry Rose <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> Sent: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 8:38 am
> Subject: [MR] New comers being nekkid
> 
> And if you'll look again you'll see that it is still
> one of two requirements of the SCA. The other being
> to
> pay your non-member fee/site fee when attending
> events.
> 
> I can understand at large formal events pressing the
> issue. But if it is a smaller event I really do not
> see the point in turning someone away.
> 
> No, we are not here for entertainment. We are here
> for
> education. I'm sure some have forgotten how odd we
> felt on our first day, but try to remember. Lets
> face
> it. Were nerds people. Hate to break it to you. The
> normal person does not check out at 5 on Friday then
> spend all weekend showing off large bruises,
> spinning
> wool, or debating the very delicate points of combat
> archery. WERE WEIRD! And they (they being the new
> comers) know this.
> 
> But, they come to us with interest. They come to us
> wanting us to guide them and show them our ways. It
> takes a lot for someone to attempt to come into our
> world. And when they do, they should be welcomed
> with
> open arms.
> 
> For a moment, just a moment think about the one
> person
> in the SCA you look up to most. Try to remember the
> first person who caught your attention or the person
> you learned the most from. Think about the one
> person
> out there in SCAdia who "makes" the event for you,
> the
> person who events just arent the same without. You
> could be that person for someone.
> 
> Each one of us makes an impression on someone at
> every
> event, large or small. Whether we want to or not. It
> is up to each one of us to choose whether that
> impression will be a good one or a bad one. It is up
> to us to choose if we will pass on the knowledge of
> those who have come before us. It is up to us to
> choose if we wish to keep the dream alive.
> 
> Each new person is the future of this dream we call
> ours. One day all of us will be too old to walk out
> onto the battle field or simply attend an event. Who
> will keep our dream alive?
> 
> So what if they are uncomfortable when they first
> show
> up at the event? Find a Chatelaine, anyone who is
> willing to walk them through the site. Someone who
> is
> willing to find out what they are interested in.
> Someone to take them to someone with similar
> interests
> and peak their interests even more. Then, that
> someone
> can walk them back to the loaner garb and politely
> ask, "Are you ready to get dressed now? Because you
> really do look rather funny nekkid."
> 
> For the sake of everything holy, please dont turn
> them
> away. That could be the new best friend I never knew
> I
> had, or yours for that matter.
> 
> -Shae
> 
> --- Carolyn Cox <thefarseeing at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
> > When last I looked, the only requirement to attend
> a
> > SCA event was to at
> > least make an atempt at pre 17th cent dress.  We
> > have never intended to be
> > entertainment for those who just want to look
> around
> > or tey us out  The
> > popularity of Ren Fairs is part of the problem,
> but
> > I am adamantly opposed
> > to going back on the simple requirement,  If
> people
> > get turned away, they'll
> > know better next time.  When working troll, I have
> > admitted people in the
> > most redicuulous get-ups without a blink because
> > they wer trying and I
> > figured they would catch on if they  stayed with
> us.
> >  I have also turned
> > away people with no attempt and will continue to
> do
> > so.  Having some loner
> > garb at the troll is a good idea.  IStill serving
> > the dream,  Avery
> > ----- Original Message -----
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> > Subject: Atlantia Digest, Vol 60, Issue 35
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