[MR] Mantlings, not Mantles.

[Mike C. Baker]

While there are more formal answers out there, my QND top-of-Amra's-head
answers:
 
Torse - the fabric "roll" used in lieu of a circlet to hold a veil or
mantling in place; on "full achievements" of arms, this is typically the
two-colored band that goes around the lemet above the device. (Gerita,
I'm reasonably certain you have seen these as they were constructed for
sale by HG Willow some years ago - I do not use mine often, but one of
the gifts Isobel gave me was a maroon and white torse.)
 
Mantling - a shorter veil that covers the neck / back of the head.  In
French Foreign Legion images as we have received them over more than a
century of film, the fabric attached to the back of the cap to provide
shade for the neck is a descendant of mantling for helmets.  (Mantling
as a lesser / diminutive of a full mantle, therefore...)  
 
Mantling may be attached to the torse, or may be held in place over the
helm by a torse, or may be directly attached to other headgear, or may
be held in place by a circlet/crown/combs/hairpins. 

Adieu, Amra / ttfn - Mike / Pax ... Kihe

Mike C. Baker
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From: Carolle Cox [mailto:geritadellamara at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 3:00 PM
To: Mike C. Baker
Subject: Re: [MR] Mantlings, not Mantles.


I'm definitely in favor of items identifying members of a fighting
group, and not just at major wars.  I do confess though, I have no clue
what a torse or mantling are!

Gerita