[MR] A&S Judging Question Part Two

Carolle Cox chinrescue at comcast.net
Wed Oct 17 13:55:22 PDT 2007


Now that is just plain sad...

Gerita



Carolle Cox
Japanese Chin Rescue and Care Volunteer
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Pituitary Disease Support
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-----Original Message-----
From: Margaret Cochrane [mailto:margaretcochrane at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 4:47 PM
To: Carolle Cox; atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [MR] A&S Judging Question Part Two


Not to mention that people regularly forget the power of their words.  
Or forget what they said last time they discussed a particular topic with
you. I got low marks for a technique on a particular entry, and the comment
said "I'm teaching this technique at my class at University, please come,
you need help with this," so I duly went to University (with my very tiny
baby), and was told on getting in to the class, "Oh, you already know how to
do this, don't worry about it!" Same person for both the negative and
positive comments.  I still don't know what she really thinks - I rather
suspect it would depend on when I asked her.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Carolle Cox <chinrescue at comcast.net>
>Sent: Oct 17, 2007 4:31 PM
>To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org
>Subject: Re: [MR] A&S Judging Question Part Two
>
>
>This issue comes up repeatedly in more Kingdoms than one.
>
>Entrants work hard on a piece (or body of work, heaven forefend), 
>giving it their very best application of skill and research.  
>Naturally, they expect their entry to do at least fairly well.  Or, at 
>the very least, not gather any gratuitously nasty comments. Many people 
>finally give up and quit entering because it's not worth the pain of 
>the nasty remarks, or almost worse yet, no remarks at all from judges.  
>Right or wrong, people's hearts get tied up in these projects, and then 
>they get hurt.
>
>Judges, on the other hand, are volunteers like the folks at Troll or on 
>the field of battle.  Frequently, they're asked to judge in areas they 
>are not conversant with, and/or read long sets of documentation on 
>forty different items in less time than it takes to really read one.  
>Sometimes, they're pressed into service literally at the event, and 
>their heads just aren't quite in it. Personally, I've heard comments 
>from judges who are faced with entry topics they know literally nothing 
>about - they're not happy.  Most of them would Like to do a good job of 
>evaluating the entries and leave helpful critiques.  There just isn't a 
>reasonable way to accomplish it.  In a perfect world, our work would be 
>judged by someone who has studied the art forms themselves, and can 
>score the work accurately and then offer positive and helpful 
>commentary on our efforts. In real life, this is so impossible as to be 
>almost funny. Think about the number of judges that would be required, 
>and the depth of experience they'd need to have...
>
>I'm on no one's 'side' here; just trying to achieve a balanced view of 
>the situation in the artisan world.  If we want to, we can take a clear 
>picture and use it to improve the system.  If we don't, these posts can 
>degenerate into some pretty unacceptable comments and name-calling.  
>I'd rather see the former than the latter.
>
>In service to the Dream,
>Gerita della Mara
>
>
>Carolle Cox
>Japanese Chin Rescue and Care Volunteer www.japanesechinrescue.org
>Pituitary Disease Support
>www.health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PituitaryDiseaseSupport
> 
>People are like stained glass windows.  They sparkle and shine when the 
>sun is out, but when darkness sets in, their beauty is revealed only if 
>there is a light from within. -- Elizabeth Kübler-Ross
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