[MR] Unevent Boycott Reply

[Estienne de Condé]

Replies within, Marked EdC:

On Nov 10, 2007 9:45 PM, V Small <lordprobitas at gmail.com> wrote:

> Estienne de Cond wrote:
>
> It's my understanding that Unevent (such as all Kingdom events) is put on
> by
> a group, be it a Barony, Shire, or what have you. If one that is centrally
> located does not submit a bid then Kingdom has very little choice in the
> matter.
> *I believe that Kingdom does have a choice and  should find it's own site
> without going through any group, in order to be fair to all Atlantian's.
> The
> Kingdom has a steward that is looking for sites for Kingdom Crusades, why
> not a steward looking for a permanent university/unevent site? You cannot
> tell me that there is no site to be had in the middle of Atlantia?  Some
> place that could be used year after year? *


EdC: Somebody else has already pointed out that this years site is about as
physically close to the Center of the Kingdom as one could wish. Your
reference to Crusades, which is an Inter-Kingdom event, has no merit. It's
not only Atlantia's event, but one shared with the Kingdom of the East. This
is another "type" of event, that while listed as a Kingdom Event, is also an
inter-Kingdom event, so other rules will also apply, as enshrined by Kingdom
Law.

The issue is not with Kingdom, but with a lack of Groups putting in Bids.
> >From what I have seen, this is not an issue only with unevent, but with
> many
> others that are coming up.
>
> Did you, perhaps, get your group to submit a bid for Unevent?
> *Absolutely not.  First of all, we all believe that unevent is
> unnecessary,
> it is just what it says it is, an unevent.  If there are matters to be
> discussed, then attach sessions either to or in place of Summer
> University,
> so as to not waste people's time and money.


EdC: "we all believe"? You propose that you stand as a spokesman for a
larger group of people? I wonder at where this group may be located? Why
take the huge amount of time from another event for something like this? As
others have pointed out, this would detract from other events. I will refer
you to section of 6.2 of Kingdom Law, which lists "Kingdom Events", their
purpose, and the dates they are to be held. While I admire your thoughts as
far as saving other peoples money - if you are not an officer, there is no
real reason that you would need to go. Anybody that volunteers for office
should be aware of all the expectations, including certain events, prior to
taking the office. It's a working event, for Kingdom Officers, their
regionals and deputies to discuss issues with their subordinates. Others are
welcome, of course, but there is no real need for them to go.

*
> Did you volunteer your time to put it together, run it as autocrat? If so,
> you
> should have been told why your bid wasn't accepted. If not, you really
> don't
> have anything to complain about.
> *So, I see an injustice that applies to our populace and have no right to
> address said problem?  I fail to see your point.*


EdC: I fail to see an injustice, other than a misinformed attempt to get
people to not go to a necessary event. Perhaps you should educate yourself
as to how the event bid process and Kingdom Law works, and then try a more
reasonable approach. This is a Kingdom of Laws, after all. You are
advocating breaking, or at least bending such based on your own personal
perceptions, which may or may not agree with others. Your arguments have
been neatly shot to pieces by other members, but I wanted to reaffirm and
agree with what they had said since you replied to my little email.

This is a volunteer society. If you don't volunteer of yourself, you are not
really doing anything to enhance the dream for others. I suppose that type
of person has their place, but it is not one of leadership in my personal
opinion. YMMV


> If you see something that you perceive as a problem, and are not proactive
> in creating the solution, you lose all rights to complain about it in a
> volunteer society as far as I am concerned.
> *I am being proactive, hence this and my former missive.  I have offered
> real solutions to a real problem. There are many of us who would gladly
> volunteer to take up your "cross" and work out a viable solution.  And, I
> beg to differ with the loss of my rights. You are living in a real world
> my
> friend, whether you want to or not.


EdC: So, your solution to an issue you perceive as a problem is rebellion,
in this case against the Crown? You have not offered solutions that I would
consider practical or even legal according to our current laws. While I do
live in a real world, there are also rules within the framework of the
society we play in. They are there for a reason. There is nothing wrong with
advocating the changing of a law, but there is with the way you are trying
to do it. Working outside the rules can only be detrimental to the dream and
game we play in the way that you offer.

Since my only "cross" as you term it is serving my Kingdom and Crowns as
best as I am able, I will be quite happy to take you up on your offer of
volunteering to help bear it. I am currently distressed over the lack of
bids for a lot of future events. Which event that currently needs a host do
you propose to submit a bid for? Perhaps Unevent next year, so that you
might gain another perspective as to what this event actually is, and why it
may be needed?

-- 
In Service,

Lord Estienne de Condé
Argent, three falcons vert
Supremus totus, Muneris
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MKA Steve Lackey