[MR] Fwd: Re: A&S Sponsors for non-A&S people

[Logan]

you mis-understood.  what i said was that the act of watching a single
parents child so they could fight or making food for them is certainly equal
to the work of a water bearer or the mic.  what would be a weak argument
would have been for someone to suggest that those actions are equal simply
because they serve the army.  i think caring for the children is a much more
taxing responsibility than being an mic.  ive done both and, well, one
wasn't any real work at all.  yet there are those that would suggest that my
work as mic was a better service than my work with children simply because
one served the fighting community and the other didn't.

hope you understand now.

regards
logan

 
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[mailto:atlantia-bounces at atlantia.sca.org] On Behalf Of Cecelia Hughes
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 2:10 PM
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Subject: [MR] Fwd: Re: A&S Sponsors for non-A&S people

Sorry, I meant to send this to the list...

> 
> --- Logan <logan at ebonwoulfe.com> wrote:
> .....  i guess im still a little torn when it comes
> > to
> > asking what laurel and pelican candidates have done for the army. 
> i
> > think
> > we get so many perks as fighters that it seems a little unfair to
> > expect a
> > pelican, for example, to have served us in any form.  i mean what
> if
> > he/she
> > spends all their time assisting cooks or children?  little time
> will
> > be had
> > for the army directly but are not these services equally as
> > important?  and
> > yes, it could be weakly argued that watching a single fathers child
> > or
> > feeding him at the end of the day are services to the army.  not a
> > good
> > enough argument to convince me though.
> 
> Every army I know of marches on its stomach.  And as a youth
> minister,
> not only have I watched that single parent fighter's child, but I
> have
> kept the small ones from swarming the list field (Wow!  Look at all
> that open space!  They must mean that for us to play in!), I've
> taught
> them about knighthood, I've gotten them into youth fighting, and I've
> tried really hard to give them a reason to want to stick around
> during
> those teen years when everything is boring because they aren't
> allowed
> to fight.  As a herald, I have cried more than one Crown Tourney and
> been War Herald for more than one War (back in the days when we were
> the only source for news and the camp's basic loud-speaker system,
> thank you.  oops.  That probably dates me...)  I have made banners
> for
> war points and for armies.  As a scribe I have done about a metric
> ton
> of scrolls for martial awards.  I've made surcoats for fighters as
> well.  I would hesitate to call that a weak argument.
> 
> Your examples do, however, remind me of the argument I used to put
> forward in the days when there were separate arts and sciences
> ministers (oops!  Dated myself again...)  I think all of our
> scientists
> and craftsmen should pour their energies into creating an
> instantaneous
> mode of transportation, so we could get rid of the drive time to get
> to
> events.  Then, if the arts people wanted to get involved, they could
> embroider something nice to throw over top of it when it wasn't in
> use...
> 
> Hey!  It makes as much sense as trying to separate the arts and
> service
> from fighting and still have a medieval recreation group, doesn't it?
> 
> Graidhne ni Ruaidh
> (sometimes known as Granny the Rude) 
> 
> 
>