[MR] Fw: Proposal for reducing the backlog of scrolls with helpfromBarons/esses and Heralds

[LISA DENNEN]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Mowbray" <syrrichard at yahoo.com>
To: "LISA DENNEN" <lbdennen at verizon.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: [MR] Proposal for reducing the backlog of scrolls with 
helpfromBarons/esses and Heralds


> Awards of Arms were given in period congruent with the registration of
> those arms to that particular individual. That statement alone is
> enough to stop the issuing of said documents to those who have no arms,
> IMHO.
>
> Yes, we live in Atlantia. If the persona you have chosen only
> recognizes the Emporer of Japan, your local warlord/tribal cheiftain,
> or the Khan, then you should refuse an award from the Crowns of
> Atlantia. I think you should make a decision as to which game you are
> playing. Way too many SCAdians want to play whatever way suits them at
> the given moment.
>
> If having a registered name and device is not important to you, then
> maybe having those awards isn't that important, either.
>
> And what about the time energy and talent of the scribe that is wasted
> when your scroll no longer reflects who or what you are in the SCA?
> Where is your acknowledgement of the time and energy that went into
> that scroll that no longer bears any relationship to anything because
> you have gotten past being "Cindy of Steirbach" (not meant to refer to
> any person living or dead).
>
> I have an easy solution. One year after an award is given, if you do
> not have arms and name, or have petitioned the Clerk Signet's office
> with documentation of your attempt to acquire said name and device,
> your award drops to a "by commission only list".
>
> I have done scrolls for OPAL, CORAL BRANCH and other awards that had
> the Order badge only on it. I have also done separate AoA scrolls for
> recipients of those Orders who had a name and device registered. They
> make nice matching scrolls.
>
> As a scribe, I just get tired of looking at a list of people who
> supposedly want my work, but who have not registered themselves. Nobody
> says you have to. Nobody should make me uncomfortable with a backlog
> for those folks either.
>
> 2 more points;
>
> I have three registered devices, one arms and two badges. It's not that
> hard.
>
> Most of us spend more then $20 on snacks to and from events. If you
> haven't got the money to get registered, then perhaps you are using
> this as an excuse? You would have to search your own heart for the
> answer to that. I have known folks that used their rent money to go to
> events and who quit their jobs to go to Pensic. We all make choices.
>
> -Richard
> who once GAVE someone $20 to register their name and device and they
> still haven't done so (12 years gone by)
> --- LISA DENNEN <lbdennen at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> I also agree (and this is coming from a herald!).  You shouldn't HAVE
>> TO
>> register your name/device in order to receive a scroll.  Remember
>> that an
>> AoA is a participation award.  This is showing everyone that you have
>>
>> participated enough to get recognized for the stuff that you do.
>> So...why
>> should there be a requirement that in order to receive your scroll
>> you MUST
>> have a name/device registered?
>>
>> I'm sorry it just doesn't make sense to me.
>>
>> Now, I'm not saying that it is a bad thing to register your
>> name/device.
>> Being a herald I like to see this!  But getting people to do it?
>> That can
>> be kind of hard.  Some folks don't because they don't like "da rulez"
>> about
>> heraldry.  Some folks really just can't be bothered with it all.  And
>> some
>> can't afford it!  Did y'all think about that one?
>>
>> Isabetta Seraphina di Petrillo
>>
>> >
>> > I definitely agree.  Also, is heraldry period for every persona?
>> It's by
>> > no
>> > means my area of expertise, but I'm sure there are heralds on the
>> list who
>> > can give us a history of heraldry and where/when devices were used
>> to
>> > identify an individual.
>> >
>> > Someone with a Viking or Chinese or what have you might choose not
>> to
>> > register a device because it doesn't fit with their persona--does
>> that
>> > mean
>> > they should never get a scroll if they've received an award?
>> >
>> > Also, not only are there people who just don't care to register
>> stuff,
>> > there
>> > are people who *wisely* wait on registering a name and device until
>>
>> > they're
>> > certain it's what they want, rather than going to the trouble of
>> > registering
>> > a name only to determine after a few months that they'd rather have
>> > something else.
>> >
>> > Adriana Michaels
>>
>>
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