[MR] Pennsic Theft

Mon Aug 13 05:53:42 PDT 2007

MiLord, 
  Don't get me wrong.. my "delaying tactic" was sufficient enough that other gentles made it back to their campsite as well as ours..  I do like the idea of stocks..  for the perpetrators, being that we do not do as Hammurabi did to theives.. but barring that.. Dilligence and Vigilance are the best methods to keeping your items from getting stolen... Vigilance is a deterrent as is locking precious items up.. or tying it securely (Gordian didn't want someone walking off with his oxcart).. deterrnets don't stop a theft from occurring, but the more deterrents the more time it takes and the more likely the theif will get caught...
MH
Richard Mowbray <syrrichard at yahoo.com> wrote:
  This is by no means a rampant problem in the SCA, but it does recurr
fairly frequently. I like to think it is the result of "bad persona"
and not just that we are seen as weak and easy marks for those with no
moral compass.

It's like the mercenary thing. We have a group that from its inception
sought to recreate the Middle Ages as a noble and chivalric vision. But
somehow it became acceptable to be mercenaries, pirates and theives.
That tainted the mix. Shortly thereafter, we had 80 to 90 percent of
these folks as a boisterous, fun-loving lot... and ten to twenty
percent opf them who felt that their persona made it 'okay" to steal,
maltreat, and molest the rest of us. But it was "okay" because they
were "dark" personas.

You know, I bet they would get really uptight if we who represent the
noble and chivalrous aspect started hanging these idiots. Real rope,
real trees. But hey, it would be okay because that's what our personas
would do. Right? Sounds more correct to me than giving them something
to drink and sending them off to steal someone else's property.

Maybe they need to build some stocks for these critters at Pensic. We
could show our distaste for them by launching bad food into their
incredulous faces. That is, if we could keep the bondage community out
of the stocks long enough to get any use of them.

Perhaps our big tent needs some trimming... 

-Richard

--- Sandi Rust wrote:

> Yeesh it sounds like a theft I prevented at an Estrella War one
> year... A couple of "gentles" who were later identified as a couple
> of Dread Lords known for "stealing" things from unguarded camps and
> "ransoming" them off later. They asked me if they could rummage
> around the camp I was staying with and take a couple things.. I told
> them that I would be most saddened if they did because my brother and
> his household trusted me to watch over their things and instead of
> "aquiring" a few "loose items" to come share my fire and a drink for
> a bit. They did and happily tottled off a few minutes before my bro
> and some of his household meandered back... :) 
> 
> One thing I have learned at Wars.. always have someone on watch at
> the campsite... two are better... Folks in the SCA are supposed to be
> above such things.. but there are always exceptions to the rules..
> Marie Hélène
> 
> Scribe0002 at aol.com wrote:
> Greetings to the list and welcome back from war to those who
> attended . . . 
> 
> Below I've pasted a message put out on several lists by a lady I know
> and 
> trust. If anyone has any information or sees anything like the item
> stolen, 
> please contact Drueta.
> 
> ~gise
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Please excuse the bandwidth and please forward as you see
> appropriate.
> 
> The Barony of Ironbog was the victim of a theft on Thursday night at
> Pennsic 
> I wish this was a joke but it isn't. Someone or ones came into our
> camp and 
> took a couple of senseless things, a camp chair and a pair of pants,
> but 
> also stolen was something we hold much more dear...... Our Baronial
> camp
> sign.
> 
> The camp sign was approx 24" by 36" cutwork steel with our arms and
> name. It 
> weighted about 30lbs. This was not a prank done by kids. They had to
> have 
> traversed our entire camp to take what was stolen.
> 
> The pants and the chair can be replaced. What we would really like is
> our
> sign returned, no questions asked.
> 
> If you see it or know where it is, please, please, please contact
> myself our
> our Baron, Master Lawrence Thornguard or Baroness, Mistress Katherine
> Barr
> of Cumberland.
> 
> Thank you for your patience and understanding,
> 
> Lady Drueta de la Rosa
> 
> Ironbog Seneschal
> 
> 
> 
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