[MR] A question of Protocol

[Beverly Robinson-Curry]

Depends on who it is.  And why they didn't do it.  Quite frankly, often it's
just a matter of distraction or falling out of the habit.  If the choice is
deliberate, no matter of "reminders" will make any difference.

The best choice is to give the benefit of the doubt and let it go by, unless
you notice it is an obvious repetitive habit.  Then, perhaps instead of
approaching the person directly (because people don't take criticism well,
especially from strangers), mention it to a peer or close friend of the
person and ask them to intercede.

I think the "Courtesy Police" are just about as unwelcome an idea as the
"Period Police".  If everyone undertakes to _lead by example_, things such
as this become an easy habit.

Rhiannon


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "mweymark" <mweymark at carolina.rr.com>
To: "Arthur Donadio" <dukecuan at hotmail.com>; "Atlantia Elist"
<atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [MR] A question of Protocol


> I think we all agree that a person new to these customs can easily be
> forgiven, however what of those that have been in the game a long time?
> Would a gentle word of reminder be out of line? or should it just be let
go?
>
> ** I once actually left a message for our receptionist "If his Majesty
> calls, please find me" I am certain you can imagine the LOOK I got.
>
> Caterine
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Arthur Donadio" <dukecuan at hotmail.com>
> To: <ladyro at comcast.net>; <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [MR] A question of Protocol
>
>
> > Hello All:
> >
> > In my experience, no sovereign, consort, royal peer, or person of
baronial
> > rank who is comfortable in his or her own skin will bristle at an
> unintended
> > failure to observe the customary courtesies.  Most of us remember all
too
> > well what it was like to be new and to have difficulty remembering the
> forms
> > and meaning of the various hats and heraldry.  As has been commented,
> > Atlantians are known around the world for being particularly respectful
to
> > the Crown, to each other, and to dignitaries of other realms.
> >
> > My take on the toasts differs from that of His Grace, Logan.  Under the
> > theory that in their own lands the baron and baroness outrank everyone
but
> > the king and queen, during my reigns, I have always instructed that (at
> > events hosted by a barony) the landed baron and baroness have the honor
of
> > toasting the king and queen.  Then the highest ranking peer toasts the
> crown
> > prince and princess and the next highest ranking toasts the sitting
baron
> > and baroness.  This has always made the most sense to me as it helps
> > reinforce to the people of the barony that next to the king and queen,
> their
> > baron and baroness are at the top of the food chain in their lands.
> >
> > On the topic of carrying SCA observances into the modern world, I can
tell
> > you that I have done that too.  At the end of a long and particularly
> > contentious trial in district court, I rose to give my closing argument.
> > When I concluded, the judge said,"thank you, Mr. Donadio".  Without
> > thinking, I bowed to the judge before sitting down.
> >
> > Cuan
> >
> >
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